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hi fi companies bordering on irresponsible

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...The biggest audio fraud in the history was CD, when advertised by Sony and Phillips - Perfect Sound Forever.

I agree. They just left out the word 'relatively', which would have transformed the claim from fraud to understatement!

My vote for today's biggest fraud (only meaning it is the biggest fraud I have seen today) is Linn's website for the LP12 which says "the turntable that changed hifi history".

:popcorn:

There was absolutely nothing new about it, and it wasn't even the best of it's day! 99% of hifi went right on without it, it never changed anything, etc etc. Pure fraud.

In fact I could argue that Linn stole the slogan that CD truly deserves! It's a turntable, and it truly changed hifi history.

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I agree. They just left out the word 'relatively', which would have transformed the claim from fraud to understatement!

My vote for today's biggest fraud (only meaning it is the biggest fraud I have seen today) is Linn's website for the LP12 which says "the turntable that changed hifi history".

:popcorn:

There was absolutely nothing new about it, and it wasn't even the best of it's day! 99% of hifi went right on without it, it never changed anything, etc etc. Pure fraud.

In fact I could argue that Linn stole the slogan that CD truly deserves! It's a turntable, and it truly changed hifi history.

Too late to get our knickers in a knot over Linns' absurd claims when we should now be asking questions about so called high-resolution downloads. English Hi-Fi News & Record Review magazine is , bless em, publishing graphs of these downloads with reviews. It appears we aren't always getting what we pay for.

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Indeed by whom? I wouldn't pretend to know or suggest who should all I know is that it's an area that could definitely do with some regulatory standards.

Apart from some early ionic tweeters, hi-fi gear seldom kills it’s owners. Car safety standards are highly regulated in most countries but audio gear I suspect , apart from simple basics like earthing safety, will remain open slather for snake oil sales and sloppy ‘measurements’.The question remains though; even if accurate frequency response results for speakers were published ( putting aside for now they could only be standardised by testing in anechoic chambers) what percentage of the buying public would understand them and more to the point , what percentage of audiophiles would know how they’d then perform in their own listening rooms?

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Ooooh advertising is drivel - fancy that. Hold the headlines (cancel that they pay for the headlines).

Move along, nothing to see here. Nothing new anyway. Just do your own research and make up you own mind.

How do you embed a video. Is it this button?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLbyaNbhHdU

No that doesn't look right. It's wonky. This is just like Woolworths, no sooner do you learn the layout and they go and change everything. I think its a plot by our mining billionaires to take away our voice and sell us to China one by one.

Click the link. There may bean ad (is that irony or what), and then there is one of the best Australian songs ever - most relevant to this topic

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you would be happy if you were bouncing around the beach frolicking with buxom 18yr old hotties in bikini's rather than sitting in a van with a smelly coworker stuck in traffic downing a servo pie and a barely cold plastic wrapped coke. you are a victim of the need to feed your kids. rebel and go forth to hayman, to frolic and roam amongst the supermodels and sugar addled teenagers. don't be a victim anymore, tell nana to go get stuffed, you're an individual and you're off to get some of that bootie action.....

the kid's will be alright, their mum will get a job in the mines or at least the quarry at the end of your street.

What an excellent rant! Well done.

I just realised I've been watching TV - on and off - since 1956. Clearly my brain turned to mush years ago. But with my luck the moment I get to Hayman they'll be hit by a cyclone.

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You are being serious aren't you?

Yes very serious you can enjoy life and spend $$$ or leave it for others to spend..................

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Oh noooooooooo !! :(

Imagine companies making grandiose claims to market their product, whatever will we get next? I thought all audio companies were honest and upright entities who have our best interests at heart and know I find out that this may not be true

This is obviously an outrage and as such represents then final chapter of civilised behavior as we once knew it.

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It's not just hifi. Coke ads keep telling me that if I drink it I'll be happy. All advertisers lie.

Coke + jack daniels make me happy (they forgot to include that in the coke add)

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There's a significant difference in the way a lot of marketing works in the audio industry from most others ( apart from new age self-improvement schemes and cults). The difference may explain one reason the younger generation think we're all just a bit mad. It's the snake oil and pseudo occult rubbish this industry is tainted with. Try explaining the science behind something like Mpingo disks to a non audiophile as see where you get. But hey, it's not just industry hype and bullshit at work here. Audiophiles themselves have demonstrated a bewildering willingness to swallow gallons of snake oil over the decades. So, who really is to blame for the undeniable fact that we are often regarded as more than a little mad my 'normal' people. And let's not forget the role of the audioporn press in providing space for absurd advertising claims and then backing them with reviews that need to be taken with a large pinch of salt if not total disbelief.

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I think I need to take a Vitamin Pill after reading all this ....

JJ

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Too late to get our knickers in a knot over Linns' absurd claims

and much too late to bring up 1982 CD slogans
when we should now be asking questions about so called high-resolution downloads. English Hi-Fi News & Record Review magazine is , bless em, publishing graphs of these downloads with reviews. It appears we aren't always getting what we pay for.

And it will only get worse. I mean, hardly any music recordings actually have the bandwidth of high res formats anyway.

If I buy a 24/96 of an analogue 60's recording and due to the 60's mics and tape machines there is nothing over 18k, am I ripped off?

If in 2015 I buy a 32/384k download of a 24/192 recording made in 2010, am I ripped off despite thre being nothing of any note above 96k in the original signal feeds?

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