gainphile Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Unfortunately DJCity does not sell the 8" version. Yes perhaps I prefer the sound of metal driver and what I'm hearing might simply be paper cone characteristics. I need to hear more of these types of drivers, better the gedlee design. What you are suggesting is actually my main speakers. Dipole bass + dipole mid + CD waveguide. They're "good enough" but the highs can be better if I can compromise on physical difficulties in installing a rear-firing waveguide (it would look fugly). The workaround now is 1) use only forward firing wg which sounds disconnected at times, or. 2) use rear firing dome which can sound fizzy. Integrating dipole with monopole is difficult. It would transition from dipole => cardioid => monopole. Power response would be all over the place so I like it dipole all the way. I did not like H-frame and W-frames to, they are less natural. Bass traps is quite unsightly, as you remember I can see through the windows when listening to the speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainphile Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I already ordered today, before your post.Sorry I missed it! Missed by that much! Graham aaaaaaaaaargh ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Big yes! Unsightly? That depends on how you build them and integrate into the room. Mine at the moment redefine fugly, but I have traps in mind that will simply look like part of the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 The more sensitive drivers are often paper and give the impression of less midrange detail What crap have you been listening to . CHeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Mal, I'd say the same thing even about some non-crap PHL drivers. Have you heard the Orions? That is one speaker I'd call detailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 (edited) Mal, I'd say the same thing even about some non-crap PHL drivers. Have you heard the Orions? That is one speaker I'd call detailed. Beg's the question how can a speaker be too detailed:confused: . I haven't heard the Orion's ,all of the OB speakers I've heard have been diy job's and I wasn't that convinced by them. I was going to build an OB but I couldn't afford the Raven R3 for the top end . Theres a couple of other drivers I would like to try but the budget doesn't stretch that far . Cheers Edited April 28, 2011 by 56oval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 Quite easily ... note I said perceived detail. That could be as simple as extra distortion. I'm sure you've heard speakers before that were ruthless in revealing just how bad some recordings are. Others are more forgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I'm sure you've heard speakers before that were ruthless in revealing just how bad some recordings are. Who said it was the recording could of been the rest of the system . I want to hear worts & all ,I can't change the recording but I can live with good music . Plus I've built in enough distortion device's between the front end and drivers . Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zog Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 All I need is an Aluminium milling machine silly question : why do you need a milling machine? great colour by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 28, 2011 Author Share Posted April 28, 2011 There are some decent recordings that get trashed on a more revealing system. I don't think what you are creating is the kind of ruthlessly revealing system that I would call "too much detail." To use a reference familiar to both of us, I would call TerryJ's system one that's in a good place in between extremes. Enough but not too much detail. I'm aiming for similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ828 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Beg's the question how can a speaker be too detailed:confused: .I haven't heard the Orion's ,all of the OB speakers I've heard have been diy job's and I wasn't that convinced by them. I was going to build an OB but I couldn't afford the Raven R3 for the top end . Cheers That's because you spent all your money on amps My paper Saba sound beauutiful. Bye the way what's happened to the amps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I don't think what you are creating is the kind of ruthlessly revealing system that I would call "too much detail.". We will find out one day ,but the only thing common between the 2 systems is driver manufacturer and the drivers aren't the same ,but I feel theres a family sound there with the drivers after hearing a couple of different speakers with the same drivers . CHeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 That's because you spent all your money on amps Bye the way what's happened to the amps? Hi DQ The amount I'll end up spending on the speakers will come pretty close to the amps or maybe 80% of the cost and the other 20% I'll need to spend on the room . I've been told the amps are sounding good I haven't heard them and just need a bit of tuning in the power supply's due to a couple of choke changes . Which is very good news considering its a new circuit . Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 silly question : why do you need a milling machine?great colour by the way! Maybe to make something like this Alloys good . CHeers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainphile Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 ha..ha.. Maybe they've done something right after all hence "Best speakers on earth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ828 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Hi DQThe amount I'll end up spending on the speakers will come pretty close to the amps or maybe 80% of the cost and the other 20% I'll need to spend on the room . I've been told the amps are sounding good I haven't heard them and just need a bit of tuning in the power supply's due to a couple of choke changes . Which is very good news considering its a new circuit . Cheers Where can I read about these speakers? I'm sure it will be interesting:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ828 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 [ATTACH=CONFIG]31524[/ATTACH] Alloys good . CHeers Just the thing for building a Darlek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Where can I read about these speakers? I'm sure it will be interesting:) Not really just me typing more crap .Its somewhere deep in the diy section ,need to pull my finger out and get the tweeter amps finished then I can glue the speaker cabs up . Last night I was with Lucas fine tuning the midamp and he worked out the cap values I need in the amp for mid section ,time to buy some more caps . What was very interesting was looking at blue prints for a feild coil CD for midrange . CHeers Edited April 29, 2011 by 56oval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 field coil compression driver? Hmmm that would be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zog Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Col has the first air of paudio-waves nearing completion - crossovers built up on some Soundtech crossover PCBs that were being sold at a good price at Parts Express. This pair intended for dual duty - quality listening / monitoring @ home that can be taken out and used as high quality party speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 You've been busy zog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zog Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 You've been busy zog! Col has been doing the build, though I helped work out the crossover values via some measurements. I purchased a "lazy susan" turntable bearing from ebay - we will be getting stuck into some directivity plots once we bolt some bits of wood to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gainphile Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Satin black is not bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 30, 2011 Author Share Posted April 30, 2011 Satin black is not bad! It is bad ...... bad to the bone ... b-b-b-b-ba-ba-add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Emm Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) My Dayton PA-310-8 woofers arrived today. 4 business days from America. It can take a week to get stuff from Sydney to Melbourne! So, now I have the CDs, the WGs, the xover parts and the woofers. All I need to do now is build a box or 2. I bet that bit takes longer than 4 business days. I like the look of those boxes Zog. Where did you get the plan for those Zog? Graham Edited May 3, 2011 by mr-happy-pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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