loser Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 http://pro.jvc.com/pro/pr/2017/ces/CES17_new_eshift4_projectors.html This may have been posted elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sero Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Nice! All the epson and sony gamers will be kicking themselves over this one You can get the best PQ, contrast and now lag free gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Yes very impressive new models for 2017!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrC Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Hmmm .. might tempt me to consider a 4K upgrade path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 unless into gaming I would suggest will be much better off and grabbing one of the x5000/7000/9000 models instead on run out ....while can still get one the new 2017 models are a VERY minor update.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 51 minutes ago, Chopsus said: Are these native 4K projectors or still faux e-shift? i ask because there seems to be an adjective associated with each expression of 4K making me wonder if "4K precision" is actually native 4K or yet another "looks like' marketing term. Still e-shift on this range. JVC is bringing out a 4K projector this year, but much more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Yes at 40 grand, the Z1, called the RS4500K in the US. Not a stocked item at that price, special order only. DLA-RS4500K Overview The DLA-RS4500K is the ultimate projector for discerning individuals who want uncompromised large screen performance in their home. It represents a giant leap forward in front projection, delivering exquisite native 4K high dynamic range (HDR) images at a brightness that fills even the largest home theater screens. It features three JVC-developed native 4K D-ILA devices combined with our exclusive BLU-Escent laser phosphor illumination that delivers 3,000 lumens with a 20,000 hour operational life. In addition, the new laser light source offers dynamic light control for an infinite contrast ratio (∞:1). To further ensure that the projector delivers bright, high-quality 4K images, it features a new 100mm high-resolution lens developed specifically for 4K applications, and a new Cinema Filter for a wide color gamut. Key Features 2nd generation BLU-Escent™ (Laser Diode/Phosphor) Light Source with 20,000 hour life 3,000 lumen illumination 20,000 hour laser life (at full power) ∞ : 1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio Three 0.69 inch 4K DILA (4096 × 2160) Devices All Glass 100mm Diameter Zoom Lens 18 Element, 16 Group Native 4K (4096 x 2160) Projected Image Two 18 Gbps HDMI/HDCP 2.2 Compatible Inputs THX® 4K Display Certified (pending approval) ISF (Imaging Science Foundation) Licensed Improved Multi Pixel Control (MPC) w/Auto Mode MPC Works with 4K60P (up to 4:4:4) Signals HDR (High Dynamic Range) Compatible w/HDR10 and Hybrid Log Gamma and SMPTE 2086 Motion Enhance (2D, 3D, 4K) w/Upgraded Clear Motion Drive 100% coverage of DCI-P3 color space and 80% BT.2020 1.4 to 2.8:1 Motorized Zoom Lens w/±100% Vertical Offset and ±43% Horizontal (16:9 aspect ratio) New Installation Function Memorizes 10 Positions for Lens, Screen & Masking Settings Control: Control4 SDDP / LAN / RS-232C / IR / 12V Screen Trigger Output / 3D Sync Output 3 Year Warranty Native 4K D-ILA Device The DLA-RS4500K employs the world's smallest Native 4K D-ILA device (.69"diagonal) realizing 4096 x 2160 pixel images. It utilizes vertical orientation technology and a planarization technique that reduces light scattering and light diraction over previous devices. The result is extremely high native contrast ratios with smooth, detailed pictures without visible pixel structure even on large screens. Laser Phosphor Light Engine JVC's proprietary 2nd generation BLU-Escent™ laser phosphor light engine uses blue laser diodes, stationary inorganic phosphor and JVC's proprietary color management system. BLU-Escent™ enables a consistent 3,000 lumen light output. Increased brightness ensures compatibility with larger screen sizes over 200 inches, and improved HDR performance, bringing greater depth and dimensionality to home theater screens. Using the Laser Diodes as the light source, light output can be controlled instantly enabling a contrast ratio of ∞:1. The DLA-RS4500K controls the laser output accordingly to the scene's brightness, which creates a picture that is as close to human perception as possible. Low/Medium/High Laser Diode output settings are available with a choice of three Dynamic Control modes (Off/Auto 1/Auto 2). Additionally a full manual lens aperture is available for fine brightness adjustment. High Resolution Lens Dedicated for 4K An 18 element 16 group all glass lens and full aluminum lens barrel has been specically engineered for the DLA-RS4500K's 4K performance. Chromatic aberration and color fringing are minimized even when utilizing lens shift, resulting in precise projection of 4K content. In order to project 4K resolution to every corner of the screen, the new lens diameter is now 100mm, compared to 65mm used in previous JVC projectors. This lens allows a wide shift range of ±100% vertical, ±43% horizontal for a 16:9 image (±40% horizontal for a native 17:9 image). HDR (High Dynamic Range) Compatible HDR content such as UHD Blu-ray discs incorporate extended dynamic range, 10bit color and BT.2020 color gamut. This demands exceptional specications and exacting performance from display devices. The DLA-RS4500K, employs high native contrast ratio with BT.709 and Digital Cinema Initiative (DCI) color gamut with BT.2020 color mapping, dynamic light source control and high brightness let you experience a full complement of HDR content. HDR content from various sources can be adjusted depending on screen size and screen type based on picture preferences. Auto HDR Picture Preset. When the projector detects an HDR10 signal it will automatically select the correct picture mode preset. The preset is based on the HDR10 standard, which follows the PQ gamma curve, 1,000nit brightness, and BT.2020 color gamut. Hybrid Log-Gamma is an additional HDR Gamma mode that is used for live broadcast or streaming events. Wide Color Gamut Resulting in Vivid Color Images The new BLU-Escent™ light source and new Cinema Filter achieve over 100% DCI-P3 color space and over 80% coverage of BT.2020 color gamut. The gradation of sky or sea, the various colors of red in a crimson rose, and the countless colors of green of trees can be reproduced more vividly. The DLA-RS4500K reproduces stunning imagery and color when utilizing UHD content. Luxurious Cabinet Design The DLA-RS4500K features an all-new cosmetic design, with a symmetrical cabinet that combines aluminum and matte black paint for a luxurious appearance while also reducing reflections. The center-mounted lens is set off from the black body by a gold alumite ring. For cooling, the rear intake/front exhaust fan adapts to the installation environment to maximize its effectiveness, and it employs a professional level air filter that can withstand severe conditions. Special care has been taken to add functional beauty by applying a texturized matt black finish minimizing visible finger prints during installation as well as in theater reflections. Next Generation Multiple Pixel Control The new algorithm has been developed to scale all video to 4K, giving extraordinary detail to all content regardless of source resolution. Native 4K images (up to 4K/60P 4:4:4) may also be fine tuned for the highest projected quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoggieHowser Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The first review in a European mag wasn't too stellar with them measuring contrast at a mere 8000+:1!!!That's terrible. For a JVC DILA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Nah that can't be right. the X35 was something like 38,000:1 there is no way they've gone backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoggieHowser Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 55 minutes ago, oztheatre said: Nah that can't be right. the X35 was something like 38,000:1 there is no way they've gone backwards. I know, right. They claim infinity:1 dynamic ratio because the laser can be powered off to pure darkness. But that was measured in a German mag (Video) in their latest issue. 8k:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, doggiehowser1503564764 said: I know, right. They claim infinity:1 dynamic ratio because the laser can be powered off to pure darkness. But that was measured in a German mag (Video) in their latest issue. 8k:1 Oh you're talking about the Z1? I have no idea, hope it's not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highjinx Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) Hi Folks!.....whose is going to organize a group buy for the revised crop of X5500/X7500/X9500 series projectors!....these could be the last of the 1080p projectors, the final polished revision. Appears the native 4K chip has some major contrast issues....no doubt will be solved over time. So perhaps the current crop may be the ticket till the 4K issues are resolved and prices drop to 'affordable' levels. UHD material with E-Shift from my viewing distance the difference would be more than adequate. I'm in, if the pricing is right!. Prior organized a Group Buy in 2009....but he doesn't seem active. He negotiated an excellent price back then via a local retailer!. OZ perhaps?! Edited January 12, 2017 by Highjinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 HJ, already underway with orders being placed as we get them as stock is limited right now. But more coming of course. I've assumed I'll get the numbers (and have now in just 48hrs) required to snag the further bulk buy discount so offered that into the pricing straight up. This removes the frustrating holdups for those who want one now vs those who wish to wait a bit etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmone Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highjinx Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 14 hours ago, oztheatre said: HJ, already underway with orders being placed as we get them as stock is limited right now. But more coming of course. I've assumed I'll get the numbers (and have now in just 48hrs) required to snag the further bulk buy discount so offered that into the pricing straight up. This removes the frustrating holdups for those who want one now vs those who wish to wait a bit etc. Efficiency plus Mr.OZ!..........keen to jump in myself, however will wait for a review or two first. But really I think these will be excellent units. Do you intend to have start - finish dates for your group buys?..........running several perhaps? Thanks much.....these group buys are a great chance to save more than a few $$$! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oztheatre Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 On 13/01/2017 at 6:17 AM, Highjinx said: Efficiency plus Mr.OZ!..........keen to jump in myself, however will wait for a review or two first. But really I think these will be excellent units. Do you intend to have start - finish dates for your group buys?..........running several perhaps? Thanks much.....these group buys are a great chance to save more than a few $$$! HJ, they are usually staggered over several so to remove those who aren't ready vs those who want one now vs availability. Understand re reviews and comments, letting the dust settle etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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interweb66 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Any idea when the x5500 will be available locally to buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Any idea when the x5500 will be available locally to buy? Check the forum sponsors thread. Some info there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMateDyl Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 We love our x5000! A big thanks to everyone here for the recommendation because honestly, I'm finding it hard to fault! The colours, contrast and the BLACKS (oh man, the black levels!) are amazing on this thing. Admittedly - it is our first projector so someone here with more knowledge on this model would probably disagree and be able to point out it's flaws, respectably (don't rain on my parade ) I did game on it and there was some noticeable lag which made me disconnect the PS4 and move it back into the family room, but I didn't buy it for gaming and I knew about this before I bought it. And there's some slight colour saturation on the edges in some scenes (which I'm assuming can be dialled out once it's calibrated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 The new x5500 has considerably less lagSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMateDyl Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 On 20/01/2017 at 11:01 AM, jutta said: The new x5500 has considerably less lag Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Of course it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmone Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Just received my 7500 from OzTheater! May be some time till I get it setup however as it is for a new room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanica Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 20/01/2017 at 9:31 AM, jutta said: The new x5500 has considerably less lag But only in "Game Mode" huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 But only in "Game Mode" huh? That's usually where lag is discussed, around gaming. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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