MouldyCrumpet Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Item: Elektra Valve Pre AmplifierLocation: Melbourne SEPrice: $2700.00 (Plus Shipping)Item Condition: Like new (1 year old, 15 hours use)Reason for selling: CashflowPayment Method: Pickup - Cash, Paypal, COD OnlyExtra Info: It's the latest version and is an amazing product, beating other products that cost many times more, it also has home theatre bypass. Pictures: Edited May 24, 2017 by MouldyCrumpet 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m_james Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Why does it say "do not remove cover or any screws"? How do they expect you to change the tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 If it is like their so called "up-gradable" multi channel amps then you have to send back to manufacturer, crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted May 24, 2017 Volunteer Share Posted May 24, 2017 How often do you need to change tubes on a preamp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotJ Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 tube rolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blybo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, hotJ said: tube rolling? Those that have tried have ended up back with the factory ones, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 34 minutes ago, powerav said: If it is like their so called "up-gradable" multi channel amps then you have to send back to manufacturer, crazy. Not crazy, anybody that opens up an electrical product, other than an authorised technician, will void a warranty. Arthur doesn't need technicians as he builds and designs them, and they rarely fail. I've had new tubes put in my pre but it is the previous model and several years old. It could not afford a new one so bought used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochawe Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 What type tubes does this preamp use exactly and what tubes are supplied with it? 27 minutes ago, blybo said: Those that have tried have ended up back with the factory ones, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not crazy, anybody that opens up an electrical product, other than an authorised technician, will void a warranty. Arthur doesn't need technicians as he builds and designs them, and they rarely fail. I've had new tubes put in my pre but it is the previous model and several years old. It could not afford a new one so bought used. I wonder why "those that have tried have ended up back with factory ones"? What tubes does this preamp use specifically? I have never heard a tube preamp whose performance has not improved using premium tubes so this must be supplied with excellent tubes to start with I assume? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blybo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, Aperalim said: What type tubes does this preamp use exactly and what tubes are supplied with it? I wonder why "those that have tried have ended up back with factory ones"? What tubes does this preamp use specifically? I have never heard a tube preamp whose performance has not improved using premium tubes so this must be supplied with excellent tubes to start with I assume? Ask our glorious leader @Marc. I believe he tried. Can't remember the type but mine cost around $200 to replace. I just wanted more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochawe Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, blybo said: Ask our glorious leader @Marc. I believe he tried. Can't remember the type but mine cost around $200 to replace. I just wanted more of the same. Thanks Neil, You mean $200 per tube or $200 all up for all tubes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelossus Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) . Edited May 24, 2017 by kelossus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted May 24, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 24, 2017 I can't remember what is standard but I tried all sorts of weird and wonderful. As mentioned in another thread I ended up right back where I started. As for not being improved upon factory - that's because these are not mass produced, and Arthur apart from having great ears, cares for nothing more than the best sound he can get from his products. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Marc said: I can't remember what is standard but I tried all sorts of weird and wonderful. As mentioned in another thread I ended up right back where I started. As for not being improved upon factory - that's because these are not mass produced, and Arthur apart from having great ears, cares for nothing more than the best sound he can get from his products. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk elektro harmonix 6922 if I remember. my arc phono pre uses the same brand as arc does on all their product and have for decades... they arent super expensive valves either. jay car used to sell them at one stage saw them on the shelf behind the front counter hehe given a pre amp, I doubt will ever need to replace em either. unless failed or something. which is possible.... why does he put a warning on the back probably to cover off on those who open it up not understanding they can electrocute themselves ! and that there is nothing in there for your average folk to be playing around with. its not unusual to have warnings to not open up on stuff with 230V power supplies inside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul56 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Elektro Harmonix 6922 is correct .There are four installed $200 is for four tubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChupaChups Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) On 5/24/2017 at 5:32 PM, Aperalim said: What type tubes does this preamp use exactly and what tubes are supplied with it? I wonder why "those that have tried have ended up back with factory ones"? What tubes does this preamp use specifically? I have never heard a tube preamp whose performance has not improved using premium tubes so this must be supplied with excellent tubes to start with I assume? Beautiful sounding pre. Yes as others have said, stick with the original tubes. Updated link, inserted the wrong one...ops.. Edited May 25, 2017 by Sirmorebeer Inserted incorrect link. Updated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony vinyl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 hi does anyone have any comments about this unit as a phono stage. i am wondering about its dynamics , presence etc and am assuming it is configured for MM. i am not getting reply from the seller so am putting it out to the community thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochawe Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 42 minutes ago, Paul56 said: Elektro Harmonix 6922 is correct .There are four installed $200 is for four tubes Cheers Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotJ Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 hours ago, al said: why does he put a warning on the back probably to cover off on those who open it up not understanding they can electrocute themselves ! and that there is nothing in there for your average folk to be playing around with. its not unusual to have warnings to not open up on stuff with 230V power supplies inside... It is an obligatory urge for any self proclaimed audiophile to take a peek of the internals, what components used, how's the circuit designed and layed out, the build quality... pretty much like a naked opposite sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, hotJ said: It is an obligatory urge for any self proclaimed audiophile to take a peek of the internals, what components used, how's the circuit designed and layed out, the build quality... pretty much like a naked opposite sex. oh yeah sure we have a whole sub forum just for that. however he obviously feels obliged to atleast warn the unwary... of which there more than likely might be some who dont quite understand the risk involved or what they are actually doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todagt Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 ^^^^ Are there any images of the internals of this unit? Not this one in particular but the same model lying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted May 24, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 24, 2017 I did have some. I'll post them to Lids Lifted if I can find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, al said: oh yeah sure we have a whole sub forum just for that. however he obviously feels obliged to atleast warn the unwary... of which there more than likely might be some who dont quite understand the risk involved or what they are actually doing. Very standard for equipment to have that warning on the covers. It's to prevent idiots killing themselves. You can't hear, smell or see 240V mains present. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted May 24, 2017 Administrator Share Posted May 24, 2017 You can hear it and smell it when it's too late though. Luckily, I live to tell the tale. - yes I was one of those uneducated fools whose fingers were where they shouldn't have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, Marc said: You can hear it and smell it when it's too late though. Luckily, I live to tell the tale. - yes I was one of those uneducated fools whose fingers were where they shouldn't have been. telecine's avatar is my earliest childhood memory so I started early hehe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, Marc said: You can hear it and smell it when it's too late though. Luckily, I live to tell the tale. - yes I was one of those uneducated fools whose fingers were where they shouldn't have been. Dont worry, even a educated idiot like me cope it and have been where you've been. I recently replaced a faulty PSU on a 3phase machine. Even thought the 240v 3 phase was physically disconnected I coped it because a capacitor in the PSU wasn't discharged due to it being faulty... next time I know better when I see high voltage caps in SMPSU.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.reekie Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Sirmorebeer said: Yes as others have said, stick with the original tubes. Um, there's a big difference between swapping compatible tubes vs incompatible tubes. 12AT7s have different operating parameters to 6922s, you cannot really substitute them. However that does not mean you cannot swap different 6922s or other compatible tube types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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