Guest Sime Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Ok, massive amount of egg on my face now. For the longest time I've been HATING on the DACs inside the Node2, especially with MQA, when comparing them to my 2qute. Well today while I was putting some XLR'S onto my Oppo 205, I was doing some A|B'ing and stuff, was going through the settings on my 8801 and I noticed that my Node and the Oppo inputs were running with Audyssey processing when my 2qute was running through the EQ. And there's a big difference between the two, BIG. So, I set them all back to EQ, and bingo, I can now actually enjoy Tidal masters and the Oppo is sounding better than when I first tested it last night. So yeah, my A|B'ing was flawed, but even still, the 2qute inches over them, but it's a tighter race now, so sorry Bluesound, and anyone here that I unintentionally miss lead. At at least the mistake turned out as an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todagt Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yeh, that is the big reason I believe AVR's etc get such a bad rep for 2ch. It's far to easy to screw up the settings. Of course their not as good as high quality 2 ch gear but with the top end AV gear set up correctly there is not as much in it as the forums suggest. My2c Glad to hear you are enjoying the new family member's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 @todagt I don't know why it never dawned on me to check the Audyssey settings on those 2 channels. I guess that they are Aux 1 and 2 that I just plugged their analog outputs to and thought nothing of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Getting an Integrated with zero processing was the best thing i ever did, I feel bad and very sorry that I was so stubborn about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, todagt said: Of course their not as good as high quality 2 ch gear but with the top end AV gear set up correctly there is not as much in it as the forums suggest. I dunno, my really what is an entry level integrated the Creek Evo 2 is so much better than my top of the line Integra 80.3 pre, makes me wonder how great a top end integrated would be like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Don't forget, my issue was user error, no need to put down pre/pro's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sime said: Don't forget, my issue was user error, no need to put down pre/pro's Not putting them down, I had plenty guys on here telling me that an integrated or 2 channel pre would be better than an av pre. I was told there would always be some sort of compromise or processing going in the AV pre, of course I didn't listen and just pumped more money into it, then I took a big risk sold the big AV gear got a small 75 watt integrated and was the best thing I have ever done. Edited May 13, 2017 by powerav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Easy mistake to make with AV gear. I've done it in the past. So many buttons and options. Then when you start swapping gear you can easily lose track of settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) I must admit I was questioning my own ears after you saying the dac was rubbish as I have heard it at hifi stores with some very expensive gear and it sounded great to me, I also put off purchasing one for this reason but glad I did as I got the Aries Mini and that is awesome. Edited May 15, 2017 by powerav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 @powerav I know, I feel bad about it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerav Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sime said: @powerav I know, I feel bad about it now I don't now because I got the Aries Mini which is the equivalent to a bluesound vault when you put a hard drive in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 13/05/2017 at 5:24 PM, powerav said: Not putting them down, I had plenty guys on here telling me that an integrated or 2 channel pre would be better than an av pre. I was told there would always be some sort of compromise or processing going in the AV pre, of course I didn't listen and just pumped more money into it, then I took a big risk sold the big AV gear got a small 75 watt integrated and was the best thing I have ever done. 4 hours ago, Sime said: @powerav I know, I feel bad about it now Shame on you both....... now go buy a turntable !!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 @Martykt not in a million…………… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Sime said: @Martykt not in a million…………… It's for your own good @Sime !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 @Martykt if I make it to Melbourne, you have a simple task. Convince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Sime said: @Martykt if I make it to Melbourne, you have a simple task. Convince. Shiit, that means I have to get my TT setup ready to go by then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Lol you see, digital has already won . @Martykt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, Sime said: Lol you see, digital has already won . @Martykt Err just slumming it with my DCS at the moment...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 @Martykt no idea what that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martykt Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sime said: @Martykt no idea what that is Never heard of a DCS Dac ?? What're they teaching you youngens' these days ??? https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/products/paganini-dac/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 @Martykt ohh, that'll be worth the trip on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thathifiguy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 3:01 PM, Sime said: Ok, massive amount of egg on my face now. For the longest time I've been HATING on the DACs inside the Node2, especially with MQA, when comparing them to my 2qute. Well today while I was putting some XLR'S onto my Oppo 205, I was doing some A|B'ing and stuff, was going through the settings on my 8801 and I noticed that my Node and the Oppo inputs were running with Audyssey processing when my 2qute was running through the EQ. And there's a big difference between the two, BIG. So, I set them all back to EQ, and bingo, I can now actually enjoy Tidal masters and the Oppo is sounding better than when I first tested it last night. So yeah, my A|B'ing was flawed, but even still, the 2qute inches over them, but it's a tighter race now, so sorry Bluesound, and anyone here that I unintentionally miss lead. At at least the mistake turned out as an improvement. Have to admit, I was always very surprised at how bad you found it having always thought quite highly of it myself, especially for the rather low outlay. Glad to hear you got to the root of the problem though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 @thathifiguy it probably didn't dawn on me to check for one reason was that I assumed the 2qute was "that" much better. Im actually glad it's not the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMax Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 The Nodes are great streamers Sent from my SM-N915G using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolster Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I've always been surprised at how good the DAC is in my Node 2. Glad you have seen the light@Sime [emoji106]Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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