AccuTidal Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, robbee said: Vinyl records need to go through RIAA equalization - google it. and check this out. http://www.kenrockwell.com/audio/why-cds-sound-great.htm Thanks @robbee I know Mr Kenrock quiet well, from my photography bobby/practice. He seems to know most things, does not he? However, I found the guy is with full of generalisations....., non specific nor truly in depth for/in any topic he posted online. The kind of information for secondary level, with their home-works. How much does he know about Computer Audio or digital media...! Edited March 23, 2017 by Chanh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upfront Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Thanks Linc. I prefer the weight too, the physics of it deems more logical to me. Any thought(s) on the bearing of this Japanese DP62L? I have only see pictures of the bearing and not something I've reasearched. From what i can see, I think clamping or a light weight wound be the go. By light, I'm thinking under 200g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have had the opposite experience with clamps vs weights. One clamp in particular - Mitchel - has outperformed weights in my system . It distributes force differently to other clamps and weights. But if you are after audio jewellery and bling, then it might not be the best choice Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Bear in mind also that when clamping, pushing down on the clamp while tightening it will give a lot more downwards force than weights Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky500 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I found the Denon cartridge you have more noticeable with noise in the grooves than my other cartridges. For quiet running in the grooves the best one for me so far has been the Dynavector 17D3. Sold that setup and finding the cheaper Audio-Technica AT-F7 is also very good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Full Range said: Ahh you are the bloke that just completed with a friends help to make a new plinth from a piece of wood that was going to be a cutting board You have a good setup as it stands My advice is to - Remember to view your complete audio system holistically You can have the very best TT but if your speakers and other components are not up to the task then it's money wasted I'd much prefer to have a good front end then a bad front end. Garbage in/Garbage out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimbo Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Tasso said: I have had the opposite experience with clamps vs weights. One clamp in particular - Mitchel - has outperformed weights in my system . It distributes force differently to other clamps and weights. But if you are after audio jewellery and bling, then it might not be the best choice Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Do you mean Michell Tasso? I'd like to try this as the only clamp I've had Experience with is the one on the Continiuum. But thats more for the Vacuum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABG Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Chanh said: Gents - I would appreciate some inputs on the stabiliser. Should I get a weighty one or just a Clamp. Which will work better and link please! Photos of a few recommended... You'll get the least bang for your buck with clamps and weights. Much more value and bigger improvements to be found in cartridge and arm upgrades I reckon. Or better still, buy more records. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upfront Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Bear in mind also that when clamping, pushing down on the clamp while tightening it will give a lot more downwards force than weights Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I have one of those clamps Tasso. I'm not a fan. But maybe its more turntable dependant than I thought? I don't own "bling" weights. Plain aluminum and turned timber. Simple like myself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I have one of those clamps Tasso. I'm not a fan. But maybe its more turntable dependant than I thought? I don't own "bling" weights. Plain aluminum and turned timber. Simple like myself I suspect you are right about the TT / platter used. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuTidal Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Finally have the chance to set it up...! I must admit, the new gears are matching the existing very well despite the differences between the two domains. Digital vs Analogue...! Love the real kick for bass, much more realism than my digital rig, hence more to lives... I think I could live with this...!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoz Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I could live with that turntable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulinap Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Remember to play with cartridges loading as it is very system dependent, and you've got the perfect phono to experiment with.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth vader Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I find a hockey puck is better than nothing. Sharpens up the bass a bit. Haven't used true clamps on mine though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Just be aware that the spindle tapers and it will be difficult to get a clamp to properly grip. I have the Denon 60L and bought a clamp only to find that the rubber mat was too thick and the clamp didn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuTidal Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 Many thanks Gents! I have narrowed down to two most affordable ones, apparently it can cost up to $400 each!! https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/272586592566 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/162315193537 Any other recommendations would be great! Btw - I found the Denon DL-103 a little bit bland to my taste. Had previously tried the koetsu cart with Consonance and liked the tonality of this cart much! Others recommended the Lyra, which is $7k to $9k..., . Rocky500 in the above said Dynavector, which is more affordable, I guess?! So many choices..., and I thought Digital was complicated enough?!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuTidal Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 It has been approximately a week into TT, I am out collecting records.... Bought some expensive Records online, including this rare Pink Floyd The Wall. And today, with the heads up from an audio mate, I came cleaned up these 300+ record from a local collector for $230. Most are in good condition but some are badly scratched. Can't complain for $230 with over 300 records...! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuTidal Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 This is truly addictive, and until one takes the first hand hands on experience, he/she has no $&@?en idea...., seriously! I haven't been touching my iPad for week, nor the urge of browsing my digital library while listening...! Such distractions often occur in most digiphiles, the need to skip/jump/stop..., certain to be unavoidable. With my TT experience so far.., nothing but engagingly undistracted enjoyment where it's further enlightening with Bin 407...! As previously mentioned, I found the Denon DL-103 a little too bland for my taste. Therefore, I am looking forward to next Tuesday, to have this Koetsu Rosewood Signature Cartridge fitted... Again, many thanks to @Tasso for ongoing coaching in this direction...! If it is all working out, my last leg is to source a Thorens Pretisge TT for the completeness... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I have one of those clamps Tasso. I'm not a fan. But maybe its more turntable dependant than I thought? I don't own "bling" weights. Plain aluminum and turned timber. Simple like myself Since we discussed this I decided to try one of the Oyaide record weights and this has changed my view somewhat. The Oyaide weight is adjustable but out of the box I could hear some real potential. Bass and timbre improved and I was able to reduce the VTF a little which opened up more detail but without any downside that would occur in the absence of the weight. Nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_F Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tasso said: Since we discussed this I decided to try one of the Oyaide record weights and this has changed my view somewhat. The Oyaide weight is adjustable but out of the box I could hear some real potential. Bass and timbre improved and I was able to reduce the VTF a little which opened up more detail but without any downside that would occur in the absence of the weight. Nice. How many hours do you have on it Tasso? I've always preferred the use of a heavy disc stabiliser on my SP10. Haha, maybe a we should have a stabiliser shoot-out?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upfront Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Since we discussed this I decided to try one of the Oyaide record weights and this has changed my view somewhat. The Oyaide weight is adjustable but out of the box I could hear some real potential. Bass and timbre improved and I was able to reduce the VTF a little which opened up more detail but without any downside that would occur in the absence of the weight. Nice. How is it adjustable mate? Are the "pettles" (not sure what to call them!) compartments? What can it be adjusted to and from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AccuTidal Posted April 8, 2017 Author Share Posted April 8, 2017 It appears this one is also good.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 How is it adjustable mate? Are the "pettles" (not sure what to call them!) compartments? What can it be adjusted to and from? You can adjust the number of weights in the assembly and also use weights made of different materials . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP1 Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Or mix and match. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upfront Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 Or mix and match. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk A very clever but simple idea. I like it Taso. Will be interesting to see what you think after a couple of weeks and going back to the clamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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