husq2100 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Hi all, im about to pull the trigger on a new tv. Nothing wrong with my old sony http://www.sony.com.au/support/product/KDL-46XBR45 but just feel like a newer, bigger tv. Im comparing the X9300D 55" sony to the LG 60UH850T 60" model or the sony x9300D 65" to the LG 65UH950HT 65" model size wise, im going to get the biggest I can. Im in a small place, approx 2.8~3.0m viewing distance, but only renting there. I watch mostly movies and sport like UFC, not much tv. which would you pick and why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Sony 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Sony has the best picture processing in the business. Their upscaling to watch FTA is excellent as is their motion to watch sports. of course picture quality is excellent. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemack Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 @Metamatic is right. The Bravia processor is the benchmark. and the 9 series are as good as LED gets. As for useability, the LG is superb. The 9 series LG has their version of Quantum Dot tech called Colour Prime and it's a lovely TV. Their interface shits on the Sony. The magic remote is a big step forward in user interaction so, it's an each way bet. Oh, the 850 uses colour prime as well. If you don't care too much about the smart TV stuff then go Sony. Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 i had thought this, but I do wonder about their (sony) 100hz + motion flow compared to 200hz? The LG picture looked pretty good next to the Sony, but was not the same imput Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Very hard choice. Those LG OLEDS.....OMG! Tempting! Mouth wide open tongue down to the floor, Salivatating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 For 2016 LCD's ... Sony, no question. But once you start considering OLED (i.e. Sony OLED vs. LG OLED) ... I don't think anybody has compared them side by side yet. It will be interesting. And if you are talking 2017 LCD's ... there's also Samsung's QLED to consider. Again, jury is still out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 No OLEDS guys. Just the 4 tvs I listed. They are on sale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioGeek Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 No oled, definitely the Sony then. They are both pretty good panels though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 pity no oled. is there not a pana alternative ? with sony watch out for its "reality creation" which unfortunately on a lot of their gear is "un defeatable" i.e. cant be bypassed and in reality is like a noise reduction which while can be turned down cant be switched off fuzzing detail vs other displays. has people thinking oh wow how clean...until realise looking at other sets the detail thats missing ! anyways one to watch out for their implementation of this has varied over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 It'll take one dam good tv to switch me from Sony. I'm just glad Sony have finally entered the OLED realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sime said: It'll take one dam good tv to switch me from Sony. I'm just glad Sony have finally entered the OLED realm. yes very good to see them go OLED however not being considered in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sime Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 @:) al it was just a statement, no need to get antsy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelw Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, husq2100 said: i had thought this, but I do wonder about their (sony) 100hz + motion flow compared to 200hz? The LG picture looked pretty good next to the Sony, but was not the same imput nothing to worry about. those numbers are largely made up. https://www.cnet.com/news/ultra-hd-4k-tv-refresh-rates/ Edited January 27, 2017 by michaelw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well I ended up with the 60" LG. 65 was just too big for my space :-( The main deciding factor came down to size. The 60 was noticeably bigger than the 55 and would fit. I agree that Sony probably has the edge in picture quality but not enough in my eyes to sacrifice the size I wanted. Bonus is the LG has better sound. If Sony had done a 60 or the 65 fit, then i probably would have gone with them. this is the first non Sony tv I have ever owned! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well I am planning to buy a 75" TV at some point. Right now it will have to be LCD, because (1) a 75" OLED is jaw-droppingly expensive, and (2) LG doesn't import them into Australia in the first place! Even Sony is not bringing the 75" ZD9 to Australia, so I will wait for the 75" QLED reviews to come out. Otherwise I will wait another year to see if LG imports the 75" OLED at a decent price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AudioGeek Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 At that screen size maybe more cost effective getting a 100 inch prjector setup - if you have the space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Share Posted January 28, 2017 In my travels I "heard" Sony is bringing out OLED this year and the ZD9 series will offer more than one size....maybe 75??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Correct to both. There is a 75" ZD9. But Sony didn't import it into Australia. Boo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Picked it up today and initial thoughts are not good re picture quality :-( free to air air isn't as good as my old Sony. I first put that down to bigger screen = bigger pixels? i hooked up my Sony bluray player and put in Transformers. Hmmm there is a much clearer distinction between humans and cgi. And some weird blurry pixelation around moving people.... im worried UFC etc will look like crap? any thoughts before I go speak to the salesperson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greigw Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Too bad. Play with the settings http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/uh8500/settings If you still don't like it afterwards, and if possible, swap it for a sony or samsung. Edited February 2, 2017 by greigw Poor grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jliang70 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 6:15 PM, Metamatic said: Sony 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Sony has the best picture processing in the business. Their upscaling to watch FTA is excellent as is their motion to watch sports. of course picture quality is excellent. cheers Sony has the best picture processing in business ? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, husq2100 said: Picked it up today and initial thoughts are not good re picture quality :-( free to air air isn't as good as my old Sony. I first put that down to bigger screen = bigger pixels? i hooked up my Sony bluray player and put in Transformers. Hmmm there is a much clearer distinction between humans and cgi. And some weird blurry pixelation around moving people.... im worried UFC etc will look like crap? any thoughts before I go speak to the salesperson If it's too pixelated, try to find the sharp/soft settling and adjust that to see if it makes a difference. Free to air is not always a good source to compare panels. That weirded pixelation you see will happen on any panel for free to air and I've seen that on Sony panels too! Also Ive seen it on different types of panels between LCD, plasma, and LEDs. I could be wrong but the experts call it the mosquito effect! Some Sony panels suffers from ghosting, not common with other brands, however you need to be experience to actually see this, but once you recognised its effect you wish you never knew about it because it gets annoying... it's when a objects or people leave a shadow image trail as they move across the screen, a bit like a comets trail! Watch a football game, doesn't matter whether it's AFL or soccer and focus on the players legs as they run on the field, that mosquito effect has a deveststing effect here especially on free to air. Another good scene is to watch the crashing waves of the beach and nearly all panels will show heavy pixelation to the highest degree where you think that even though the resolution is 1080 you swear it's even lower! However very different if its of a disc! Of disc, it's not as noticeable! Theres one thing about Sony/Panasonics is that the require less correction out of the box, so out of the box you shouldn't need to adjust any settings to get a natural color and natural motion picture, unlike Other high profile brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 hours ago, Jliang70 said: Sony has the best picture processing in business ? I doubt it. So please enlightenment us with your wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 I just played with the settings a bit. Cleaned up FTA a bit. Played Transformers BR again and played with settings a bit as well. If this is where tv picture has come in 8 years take me back!! camera work now looks like one of those shakey cam type movies. I'm seeing some slight ghosting (never on my old Sony) and some times the image of a person is disturbed by the background as they move past it. Example, kid riding bike fast past street light, some of the street light pole image goes through him! now no one pointed this stuff out to me, it's just plain as day. And I was actually stoked to get this telly so going in with a positive mind set. ill go to JB today and see what they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husq2100 Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Everything looks fake? Hard to explain but remember when blue screen used in movies was really apparent. Like the depth perspective doesn't blend well from a person to their surroundings. is the TV industry design driven by gaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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