Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Kinda considering some carpet on the floor....what's good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky500 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Maybe Carpet squares, so you can replace individual ones if never needed too. EDit: mow I know what you mean by adsorption. Carpet squares do have a rubber backing. I think some types of underlay have sound properties. Edited August 16, 2016 by rocky500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Maybe Carpet squares, so you can replace individual ones if never needed too. EDit: mow I know what you mean by adsorption. Carpet squares do have a rubber backing. whats that? google search doesnt show me anything. id prefer something in white too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 oh yes i mean i want something good for acoustic absorption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What about a nice Shag Pile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky500 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) oh yes i mean i want something good for acoustic absorption. Can look up Acoustic underlay to see if there is something that might suit. Then pick a nice carpet for on top. Like Muon's suggestion. Edited August 16, 2016 by rocky500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 What about a nice Shag Pile yeah thinking of some flokati type now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Can look up Acoustic underlay to see if there is something that might suit. Then pick a nice carpet for on top. Like Muon's suggestion. once thought of that.....but it's hard to find the right product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Two things. Buy the very best underlay possible. Avoid synthetic if possible and go pure wool. Lasts longer and no static build up or toxic fumes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Bunnings has some shag rugs https://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/paint-decorating/flooring/rugs/shag-pile Unfortunately they all might be synthetic Edited August 16, 2016 by Muon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 stuff like this? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5mm-Vibramat-Rubber-Acoustic-Underlay-Gym-Flooring-Bamboo-Laminate-Hardwood-/261372732064?hash=item3cdb0762a0:g:348AAOSwLpdW9Q3G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 yeah thinking of some flokati type now I have some genuine Greek hand made flokati Must be wool - but have a read of this - http://stuartjacksonllc.com/download/Acoustic-Properties-Wool-Carpet-WoolsofNewZealand.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 I have some genuine Greek hand made flokati Must be wool - but have a read of this - http://stuartjacksonllc.com/download/Acoustic-Properties-Wool-Carpet-WoolsofNewZealand.pdf thanks....know what'd the difference between flokati and 'wool shag pile' rugs though? the latter seems cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jakeyb77 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Wool shag rugs from NZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The main thing is to use heavy duty underlay. Doesn't have to be called 'acoustic', just the heavy version of general produce. Floyd Toole recommended a 40 oz/sq yard* felt underlay, supporting a clipped-pile carpet. (not the looped-pile, rubber-backed carpet) *translates to 1 kg/m2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 just recalled why i cann'd the whole project last time. i need to push pull the side table with castors on which our TV sits. not too sure if the underlay can handle the trips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky500 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) You could do it differently in that section only. Even thin/tough underlay in that section only. Even tile or floorboards in that one section. Not quite like this but you get the idea Edited August 16, 2016 by rocky500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenr Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) The thickness of the carpet is what determines absorption over frequency range. The carpet construction itself has surprisingly little influence. Increase thickness by adding more layers of felt underlay or similar porous material. That will of course result in a very soft floor surface which may be ok for some but unacceptable for others. Another option is to add a porous but mechanically stiff layer underneath the carpet. Heraklith BM boards ( http://www.heraklith.com/sites/com.heraklith.knaufinsulation.net/files/download/files/heraklith-bm_06-2014_e.doc.pdf or http://www.heraklith.com/content/downloads-documents for more general information) or Heraklith M boards (http://www.heraklith.com/sites/com.heraklith.knaufinsulation.net/files/download/files/pdbl_heraklith-m_04-2014_a_e.pdf ) in 50mm or 100mm added on top of the structural floor and covered with felt underlay and carpet provide excellent absorption properties. The absorption properties of the porous board again don't matter that much - here the flow resistivity of carpet and underlay do all the heavy lifting. Edited August 16, 2016 by svenr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wartman Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I used Regupol® 6010 17/8mm underlay beneath my carpet in all my "other" listening rooms. Made a huge difference. Awesome to do aerobics on as well. There is a small change to the carpet installation, as the underlay is about 8mm thicker than normal. Happy to give advice if you go that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicprObe Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Shag is always good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter the Greek Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I guess something else to consider is why you might want to sue the carpet or not......its been ages since I looked at this, but from memory the absorption characteristics of most carpets is pretty narrow. I have however found it beneficial in reducing flutter echo. I hate carpet, I'll never have it again (dust etc). I was originally worried about this when doing my last room, as we did a floating timber floor. We did however treat the entire ceiling, end result was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicprObe Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 A floating floor is another story again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 34 minutes ago, Peter the Greek said: I guess something else to consider is why you might want to sue the carpet or not......its been ages since I looked at this, but from memory the absorption characteristics of most carpets is pretty narrow. I have however found it beneficial in reducing flutter echo. I hate carpet, I'll never have it again (dust etc). I was originally worried about this when doing my last room, as we did a floating timber floor. We did however treat the entire ceiling, end result was excellent. My son inlaw has a business installing floating floors in Brisbane He has offered me any timber floor product I wish to choose for my sunken lounge with vaulted ceiling, where the music room is situated I'm in two minds about it and fear it will make my room to live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicprObe Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Full Range said: My son inlaw has a business installing floating floors in Brisbane He has offered me any timber floor product I wish to choose for my sunken lounge with vaulted ceiling, where the music room is situated I'm in two minds about it and fear it will make my room to live I think with a decent underlay it will be OK. You can always throw a rug on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full Range Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I have carpet And a large thick 30mm shag pile rug on top of the carpet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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