consonancemad Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 hi guys im trying to get greg to design a tube output for his ska pre something based around a 6h30 gold supertube would be nice .this combined with his optical volume control would be unbeatable . he says if theres enough interest he just might make it .so get your bums over to his site and pester him about it . i could make the first one and anyone interested could demo it at my place before buying one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coemaudio Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I'm definitely interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consonancemad Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 any more takers..,. im happy to demo the standard pre for anyone im sure once you hear it you'l be very impressed as was i .i reckon with the added tube output it would be magnificent and i would be prepared to put it up against any pre out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Can you (or Greg) tell us a bit more about this optical volume control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 any more takers..,. im happy to demo the standard pre for anyone im sure once you hear it you'l be very impressed as was i .i reckon with the added tube output it would be magnificent and i would be prepared to put it up against any pre out there Hello CM ,here's my pre using the 6H30pi it has a seperate dual power supply Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consonancemad Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 very nice 56 id love to come around and have a look/listen to some of your creations (hint ,hint ) hi keith the optivol uses optical volume control instead of a normal pot which will degrade the signal .it still uses a pot but it is not in the signal path as per normal .hopefully greg will see this post and explain it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coemaudio Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hey Keith, A bit of info here: http://www.ska-audio.com/diy/optivol.html Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 very nice 56 id love to come around and have a look/listen to some of your creations (hint ,hint ) hi keith the optivol uses optical volume control instead of a normal pot which will degrade the signal .it still uses a pot but it is not in the signal path as per normal .hopefully greg will see this post and explain it better Hello CM, I chose this design because I needed a pre that could drive 10 metre IC,s with minimal loss. I know a guy in Sydney who use's a optical volume control but found it was best suited to short high quality IC,s .But it sounds like it can be used similar as a buffer ,might be worth trying instead of the DACT,s or on the inputs of the mono's . The pre is the 1st ever electronic project I've put together still need to make a case .All up it was under a 1K ,its a Black Art Audio design ,Lucas has sold these all over world with different tubes ,each tranny is wound to suit the tube you use . Whats the cost CM of the ska . We have to work out a day . Cheers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hello CM , are you free now come over I'll turn every one and kick it in the guts . Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
consonancemad Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 hi 56 its $91 each for a finnished pre channel ( 2 needed for stereo) and the optivol is $31 supplied and finnished .all you need is transformers and case . i used 2x 20 va 20,020 toroids .alternatively you can run it off a 15 volt powersupply . its much too cheap for what it is and once built will match any pre you care to name regardless of price . did you get my pm 56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 hi 56 its $91 each for a finnished pre channel ( 2 needed for stereo) and the optivol is $31 supplied and finnished .all you need is transformers and case . i used 2x 20 va 20,020 toroids .alternatively you can run it off a 15 volt powersupply . its much too cheap for what it is and once built will match any pre you care to name regardless of price . did you get my pm 56 Hello CM, PM sent . Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKA Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi CM, I have spent over half an hour writing, illustrating, being logged off, rewriting, re-illustrating and being logged off and losing it all again ... this is all that comes out http://ska-audio.com/Forum/Attachments/stereo_LDR_Volume_control__connections.JPG there's a whole thread on my forum that you can browse - http://ska-audio.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1178438672/28#28 It's just impossible to carry on a dialogue under such conditions. Cheers, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Greg very sorry about that. This has happened to a few people now and we are trying to get to the bottom of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKA Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Thanks Keith_W, It's very frustrating Just lost the lot, twice. It leaves you in a place where you're logged in but have no permissions. greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hello greg , could I replace my DACT 100K mono pots with the optivol into the active pre.Or use them on the inputs on the monos I'm building for a tri-amp ,active system for gain adjustment between channels. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKA Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi 56oval, I'm not sure about your DACT, but the OptiVil presents a 27K and higher load to your source and benefits from a 100K+ buffer loading. The SKpre does this with a 100K input loading and 12 dB gain, with a 47 ohm output impedance to the following power amp. Your posted pic looked nice indeed. It embodies the spirit of DIY.... Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hi 56oval,I'm not sure about your DACT, but the OptiVil presents a 27K and higher load to your source and benefits from a 100K+ buffer loading. The SKpre does this with a 100K input loading and 12 dB gain, with a 47 ohm output impedance to the following power amp. Your posted pic looked nice indeed. It embodies the spirit of DIY.... Greg Hello Greg , thanks for the kind words . The great thing about diy ,you set your own limits not some bean counter .. When CM finishes his pre & amps I make sure I have a listen . Also your kits are priced so well ,why buy 2nd hand amps. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKA Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi 56oval, Sometimes it's good value to pick up an amp just for the chassis and transformer, then gut it and insert new amp modules. The GB150D for example is only 100mm x 50mm and mounts perpendicular or parallel to a heatsink so can usually be fitted in, and it will operate from 30V up to 55V supplies (split+/-). Or in some cases an amp may be blown and too costly or unsupported. It can be converted to an SKA. This one belonged to a QAC (Qld AudioClub member) and I fitted two GB300Ds - his reaction: It has never sounded so good! Many possibilities. Cheers, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56oval Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi 56oval,Sometimes it's good value to pick up an amp just for the chassis and transformer, then gut it and insert new amp modules. The GB150D for example is only 100mm x 50mm and mounts perpendicular or parallel to a heatsink so can usually be fitted in, and it will operate from 30V up to 55V supplies (split+/-). Or in some cases an amp may be blown and too costly or unsupported. It can be converted to an SKA. This one belonged to a QAC (Qld AudioClub member) and I fitted two GB300Ds - his reaction: It has never sounded so good! Many possibilities. Cheers, Greg Hello Greg , that lookslike a Metaxes chassis . Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSmyth Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Please make a Ska Tube Pre Micahel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKA Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi 56oval, Yes it's a Metaxas! The owner (Kevin) living here on the Sunshine Coast (just shy of Noosa for you Melbournites) asked me to fit it with SKA modules. It had a substantial power supply with a huge EI core transformer and retro-fit Aero caps. It was a shoe in for the GB300D modules and was driving a pair of Acoustats last I heard. I also did a pair of Monoblocks which are now powering Wilson Watt somethings... for him. Brumby may know him - lives near Kunda Park. Hi Michael, Truth is I haven't done a tube pre for 13 years amnd I'm a bit rusty. The SKpre is cutting it right now and it's such an easy build - I built 2 in just over an hour this arvo. I doubt you've heard such a transparent line stage. Onboard regs right there and Class A. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelSmyth Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Michael, Truth is I haven't done a tube pre for 13 years amnd I'm a bit rusty. The SKpre is cutting it right now and it's such an easy build - I built 2 in just over an hour this arvo. I doubt you've heard such a transparent line stage. Onboard regs right there and Class A. Greg Hi Greg I do believe that the SKApre would be a great pre-amp and someday i will have to build one. But i have never had much to do with tubes and i think that it would be a great addition to your collection of circuits in the SKA range. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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