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I used these Solid Steel stands for a while on both my Spendor SP2/3R2 and ATC SCM 19 speakers. However I find them too low for my ATC SCM 19s and am now using taller ones for them. I still have another pair of Solid Steels on my Spendors. I bought both pairs new. They are made of steel with a wooden top plate. They each have three legs with adjustable spikes. The top plate is 19cm x 19cm. They are about 53cm tall. Note that the logo stickers fell off during delivery, so I stuck them back on.

Further Information: I used these Solid Steel stands for a while on both my Spendor SP2/3R2 and ATC SCM 19 speakers. However I find them too low for my ATC SCM 19s and am now using taller ones for them. I still have another pair of Solid Steels on my Spendors. I bought both pairs new. They are made of steel with a wood top plate. They each have three legs with adjustable spikes. The top plate is 19cm x 19cm. They are about 53cm tall. Note that the logo stickers fell off during delivery, so I stuck them back on.

Further Information: One pair of Vienna Acoustics Beethoven baby grand SE floor standing loudspeakers in a dark cherry wood finish. They have a few light marks as can be observed in the pictures. Overall they are in very good condition. I have the original boxes. I have had them for 4 and a half years. I think they would suit a larger room better and I prefer my other speakers in my room. They have a smooth sound with surprisingly powerful bass for their size. I can do a short audition to a serious buyer. Reviews: https://www.stereonet.com/au/reviews/review-vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeakers https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeaker Specifications: 30Hz to 22kHz frequency response 4 ohm average impedance 91 dB sensitivity 1016mm x 216mm x 375mm dimensions About 27 kg weight each The boxes measure 1195mm x 400mm x 230mm. Pictures:

I agree, the built quality is better than both my Spendors and ATCs. They are also quite sturdy and don't fall over easily.

Further Information: One pair of Vienna Acoustics Beethoven baby grand SE floor standing loudspeakers in a dark cherry wood finish. They have a few light marks as can be observed in the pictures. Overall they are in very good condition. I have the original boxes. I have had them for 4 and a half years. I think they would suit a larger room better and I prefer my other speakers in my room. They have a smooth sound with surprisingly powerful bass for their size. I can do a short audition to a serious buyer. Reviews: https://www.stereonet.com/au/reviews/review-vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeakers https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeaker Specifications: 30Hz to 22kHz frequency response 4 ohm average impedance 91 dB sensitivity 1016mm x 216mm x 375mm dimensions About 27 kg weight each The boxes measure 1195mm x 400mm x 230mm. Pictures:

I found the same between the 20.22 and 20.24 against the 20.21 and 20.23. The 22 and 24 went louder than the 21 and 23 on the same amplification. (which agrees with the specifications) The 23 had the same bass weight and bass to mid range balance as the 24 to my ears, but the 24 could do it at higher volume levels where the 23 would start distorting due to the driver moving too far. This brings me back to my question: does the higher power only make a difference if you want to play louder? The higher sensitivity might mean that the 24 would just play louder on the same one and you still don't need a stronger amplifier. My old PMC Twenty.23 was able to play 85dB SPL at my listening position, a level that I never exceed, but if I did want to play louder (like I used to when I was younger), I would have looked for a different speaker (and possibly a different amplifier).

I'm curious to know why higher power is recommended. I don't notice any improvement on the PMC Twenty.23 between a Naim Nait XS2 at 70W and many higher powered amplifiers I have tried. Perhaps it only makes a difference at higher volume levels, and I don't notice because I never go past 85dB SPL at the listening position, usually between 75 and 80. I have been interested in hearing the PMC Twenty5.22 for a while, but haven't had the opportunity or time. I suspect it might fill the weak spots of both the Twenty.22 and Twenty.23, while retaining the strong points. The Dynaudios I have heard have a very different sound to both the PMCs and ATCs I have heard, and I suspect are bought by people with different tastes to those buying the other two. The exception is the Confidence Platinum C1, which sounded more transparent and imaged better than the cheaper Dynaudio ranges in my experience.

Anything is comparable to each other in the sense that you could compare them I suppose. However to me the ATC entry level range and the PMC 20 range sound quite different. I find both speakers to work alright when close to a back wall, but not right up against, and both also benefit from being at least 1m from side walls. The ATCs have a revealing neutral sound, and are especially revealing and detailed in the mid range. The ATCs also have a fast tight bass. The PMCs go deeper in the bass, but the floor standers are not as fast as the ATCs. On the other hand the PMC stand mounts are just as fast if not faster than the ATCs. PMCs strength is the way they throw out a huge sound stage, larger than the ATCs, and how they go deeper in the bass than you'd expect. The ATCs strength is the way they reveal everything in the mid range. The ATC SCM 19 is already very good at this, but the ATC SCM 40 takes it even further with their legendary mid range driver. Both PMC and ATC sound rather bright when put too close to side walls due to the way the tweeters reflect off the sides, but you can treat this with sound panels. When far from the sides this is not an issue at all. A lot of people recommend high power for the ATCs, some do for PMC Twenty too, but I don't really see why. I have had the ATC SCM 19 and PMC Twenty.23, twenty.22, and Twenty.24 on a Naim Nait XS2 (70W) and they sound better than to me than on a Cyrus Stereo 200 (175W) and a Musical Fidelity A3.2 CR (130W). The ATCs sound bad to me on a 50W or less amplifier, so I wouldn't go that low, but the PMCs were still fine even then.

I haven't heard the Plinius, but the ATCs are excellent speakers, the latest version far better than the PMC 23 in my opinion. I don't think the tonal balance or transparency (and other strengths/weaknesses) are the same between the ATCs and PMCs. They sound quite different to each other in my perception. How large is your room? 2.5m between the speakers and listener is fine for both the PMC and ATC you mentioned, but the rest of the room is more important. I.e. what are the dimensions (hxwxd), how far are you able to put the speaker from side walls, and how far from rear walls, and finally where is the listening position.

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Can the headphone output volumes be adjusted independently for the two jacks?

I haven't heard the PMC 25.23, but I have heard the PMC 20.23 and the Dynaudio Special 40. In my opinion the Dynaudio 40 is better than the 20.23 in just about everything. I owned the 20.23 and the Dynaudio Contour S1.4 LE in the past, and I preferred the 40 over the 1.4LE too. Your electronics are great, but you need to look out for room placement if you go for the 40s. They need plenty space behind them to sound good in my opinion. (like most other Dynaudio stand mounts)

Further Information: One pair of Vienna Acoustics Beethoven baby grand SE floor standing loudspeakers in a dark cherry wood finish. They have a few light marks as can be observed in the pictures. Overall they are in very good condition. I have the original boxes. I have had them for 4 and a half years. I think they would suit a larger room better and I prefer my other speakers in my room. They have a smooth sound with surprisingly powerful bass for their size. I can do a short audition to a serious buyer. Reviews: https://www.stereonet.com/au/reviews/review-vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeakers https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeaker Specifications: 30Hz to 22kHz frequency response 4 ohm average impedance 91 dB sensitivity 1016mm x 216mm x 375mm dimensions About 27 kg weight each Pictures:

They do have a lovely midrange and treble, it's rare to find something so detailed yet so restrained at the same time. They tell you the whole story, but refuse to shout.

I don't know if I messed up the positioning, but I didn't have the same experience in my room, which is about 5.5m x 5m. I have 70cm between the back of the speaker and the wall behind them, and the front of the speaker is 95cm from the side wall, toed in by maybe 20 degrees. The bass is rather strong for my liking, and isn't as tight as my Spendors. However my Spendors are front ported, and I think this is the reason. I tried moving the Viennas out into the room with 1.5m behind them and almost 2m from side walls and then they sound much better. Unfortunately it it not practical for me to have them so far into the room. With classical music this is not as big of a problem as with music with fast drums. I think in a smaller room you could fix this issue with bass traps, but I don't currently have space for those, as I am moving my component racks into the corners.

I do have the original boxes, and will update the description to reflect that.

Further Information: One pair of Vienna Acoustics Beethoven baby grand SE floor standing loudspeakers in a dark cherry wood finish. They have a few light marks as can be observed in the pictures. Overall they are in very good condition. I have the original boxes. I have had them for 4 and a half years. I think they would suit a larger room better and prefer my Spendor SP2/3R2 in my room. They have a smooth sound with surprisingly powerful bass for their size. Reviews: https://www.stereonet.com/au/reviews/review-vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeakers https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeaker Specifications: 30Hz to 22kHz frequency response 4 ohm average impedance 91 dB sensitivity 1016mm x 216mm x 375mm dimensions About 27 kg weight each Pictures:

I like classical music, but I find that the bass is too strong for my room, and really needs a larger room to shine.

Further Information: One pair of Vienna Acoustics Beethoven baby grand SE floor standing loudspeakers in a dark cherry wood finish. They have a few light marks as can be observed in the pictures. Overall they are in very good condition. I have the original boxes. I have had these for 4 and a half years. I prefer my Spendor SP2/3R2 to these in my room, and thus I am selling. They have a smooth sound with surprisingly powerful bass for their size. Reviews: https://www.stereonet.com/au/reviews/review-vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeakers https://www.stereophile.com/content/vienna-acoustics-beethoven-baby-grand-symphony-edition-loudspeaker Specifications: 30Hz to 22kHz frequency response 4 ohm average impedance 91 dB sensitivity 1016mm x 216mm x 375mm dimensions About 27 kg weight each Pictures:

I am interested in the stands if someone else only wants the speakers. (I have too many speakers to consider them at the moment) I had tinnitus and it got bad at one point, and for me it got much better after wearing custom molded ear plugs for a few months. (However I also had to get my ear wax removed afterwards, due to wearing ear plugs too often)

They're good for that. I don't think you'd need to boost the bass unless they're far from the walls into the room.

In my old place they were right up against the back wall, maybe 10cm at most. The right one was in a corner too. I left the left on flat and the right on reduced bass. In my new place they are about 30cm from the back wall. Both are now set to flat.

They are 60cm tall, and maybe 63cm with the spikes as I have them set at the moment. The top plate is 23cm x 17cm, and the bottom is 32cm x 21.5. Here is a review: https://www.whathifi.com/partington/dreadnought-broadside/review

Further information: I think the one is slightly more level than the other one, but my speakers touch everywhere and don't rock or wobble when they stand on them. They have adjustable spikes at the bottom, and are hollow to be filled if desired. These are made of steel and painted black. Photos: