amdan Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hi guys. Are there any vendors out there who are happy to provide power cables for in-home demos? I want to upgrade my power cables and would like to try them before buying. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantan Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) You could try Audio Principe. Peter is a really good guy, 100% honest and really helpful with excellent products and IIRC he will sell on a trial basis where you have a "sale or return " arrangement. His signature power cables are excellent and I use several of them myself http://audioprincipe.com.au/ Edit: I note that you are in SA and Peter is in Mt Barker so you could easily call in or have him send it locally. Edited October 6, 2015 by rantan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvuka2013 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) You could try Audio Principe. Peter is a really good guy, 100% honest and really helpful with excellent products and IIRC he will sell on a trial basis where you have a "sale or return " arrangement. His signature power cables are excellent and I use several of them myself http://audioprincipe.com.au/ Edit: I note that you are in SA and Peter is in Mt Barker so you could easily call in or have him send it locally. I can vouch for Peter's exceptional character & the build quality of his productsI'm a convert & solely use his speaker & power cables Edited October 11, 2015 by bvuka2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wikeeboy Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Don't mean to jump in and speak for Cam @@Krispy Audio but pretty sure he could point you in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill125812 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 + 1 for Peter Graves form Audio Principe. Great bloke go deal with I have his premium power cable on all my gear. Love them. And at the price he charges a real bargin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Dick Smith Electronics, though you will need to lay out 5 Bucks for the priviledge. They have generous return facilities. You won't need them, as their cables are as good as any. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Personally I'm a fan of Audio Unique based in Melb. A couple more $$ than Audio Principe, but I'm much more happy with them.. Can't say I've ever had a sound quality improvement using generic power cables such as Dick smith's, but if it works for your ears and your system.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygohard Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I tried the dick smith cable's!, trust me they sound like shiet! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once was an audiophile Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Dick Smith Electronics, though you will need to lay out 5 Bucks for the priviledge. They have generous return facilities. You won't need them, as their cables are as good as any. If only that was the case we would be happy Dick's with his cables but some don't hear it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygohard Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Dicks tomato sauce on the other hand must be cryogenic treated! Yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Elliott Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hi guys. Are there any vendors out there who are happy to provide power cables for in-home demos? I want to upgrade my power cables and would like to try them before buying. Thanks. What cables are you using now and on what components? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdan Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hi guys. Thanks for tips. Much appreciated. On the topic of Dick Smith cables - let me say that they can be better given the right system and personal tastes. In my experience (limited as it is), shielded cables sound warmer and less energetic at the top end. In an overly warm system, Dick Smith may very well be the way to go. They may also suit those of us who like bright systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdan Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 What cables are you using now and on what components? Black Sand cable on the CDP (Cary 303/300). An aftermarket cable (made by an audio dealer in HK) on my pre - Supratek. Stock cable on my Herron phono stage. An aftermarket cable that came with my Bryston amp (brand unknown). Stock cable with my PS Audio power conditioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hi guys. Thanks for tips. Much appreciated. On the topic of Dick Smith cables - let me say that they can be better given the right system and personal tastes. In my experience (limited as it is), shielded cables sound warmer and less energetic at the top end. In an overly warm system, Dick Smith may very well be the way to go. They may also suit those of us who like bright systems. I've performed many blind tests (for myself and others) on power cables of various prices. There is no difference. None at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krispy Audio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I've performed many blind tests (for myself and others) on power cables of various prices. There is no difference. None at all. In that system, with your ears. This doesn't mean there is no difference to others'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 In that system, with your ears. This doesn't mean there is no difference to others'. No. In my system and in others' systems, with their ears (and mine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krispy Audio Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I must be doing it wrong then... :lol: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conster Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I can easily hear differences between power cables. To verify my beliefs, I sometimes ask (plead with) my better half to partake in cable blind tests. As she is of the mistaken belief that audiophiles are a bit odd, I figure she should be unbiased. Guess what… she can also pick the differences, and although she refuses to engage in any dissection and hyper-analysis of the differences, hers and my preferences usually align. Over time, my conclusions regarding power cables have evolved to be: - different power cables suit different components; - power cables can make a bigger difference than interconnects; - the greater the system's transparency, the greater the difference power cables make; and lastly… - longer is usually better! Edited October 13, 2015 by Conster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted October 13, 2015 Volunteer Share Posted October 13, 2015 You aren't allowed to use the "wife can hear it" argument unless she was in another room reading/doing the dishes/ having a shower and didn't even know you'd changed the cable/interconnect/shakti stone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conster Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 You aren't allowed to use the "wife can hear it" argument unless she was in another room reading/doing the dishes/ having a shower and didn't even know you'd changed the cable/interconnect/shakti stone What about discussing going on a tropical holiday during testing… would that create bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Muon Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Dick Smith Electronics, though you will need to lay out 5 Bucks for the priviledge. They have generous return facilities. You won't need them, as their cables are as good as any. But they cost something like 15 bucks! Probably 3 bucks in China :lol: Edit: sorry, they are listed at $19,98 :o i tossed out half a dozen a while back. Edited October 13, 2015 by ortofun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Marc Posted October 13, 2015 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2015 Thread cleaned and the troll is on a holiday. It's one thing to debate, it's another to be offensive. Then there's also the right place/thread to do so. This ain't it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdan Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 I can easily hear differences between power cables. To verify my beliefs, I sometimes ask (plead with) my better half to partake in cable blind tests. As she is of the mistaken belief that audiophiles are a bit odd, I figure she should be unbiased. Guess what… she can also pick the differences, and although she refuses to engage in any dissection and hyper-analysis of the differences, hers and my preferences usually align. Over time, my conclusions regarding power cables have evolved to be: - different power cables suit different components; - power cables can make a bigger difference than interconnects; - the greater the system's transparency, the greater the difference power cables make; and lastly… - longer is usually better! Conster. Thanks for your observations. I guess like all audio equipment, the only way to find out the best match is to trial the cables. BTW is thicker better as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conster Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Conster. Thanks for your observations. I guess like all audio equipment, the only way to find out the best match is to trial the cables. BTW is thicker better as well? Although some may find it visually impressive, I don't believe thicker is necessarily better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Elliott Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Black Sand cable on the CDP (Cary 303/300). An aftermarket cable (made by an audio dealer in HK) on my pre - Supratek. Stock cable on my Herron phono stage. An aftermarket cable that came with my Bryston amp (brand unknown). Stock cable with my PS Audio power conditioner. Black Sand cable on the CDP (Cary 303/300). An aftermarket cable (made by an audio dealer in HK) on my pre - Supratek. Stock cable on my Herron phono stage. An aftermarket cable that came with my Bryston amp (brand unknown). Stock cable with my PS Audio power conditioner. As you have quality components you will get significant improvement with quality Power Cables and they are not Dick Smith. I have a number of different cables and as Conster stated some suit different components. The Dr. Hi-Fi cables have made the biggest overall improvement. Appear to be the most versatile, improving Source, Pre & Power Amps. Audio Principe Signature are quite good. Studio Connection and Analog Research Silver Raincoat Reference are good also, need more time with these latter two to make a more definitive assessment. All these cables are much better than stock cables. The better the component the more improvement you will notice with quality audiophile cables. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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