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#1 turntable

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 02:45 PM

Off the top of my head

1. Diana Krall - audiophiles seem to luv her, reasons unknown to me

2. Sting - what has he done in the past 20 years?

3. Mariah Carey - knuff said

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 02:47 PM

Off the top of my head

1. Diana Krall - audiophiles seem to luv her, reasons unknown to me

2. Sting - what has he done in the past 20 years?

3. Mariah Carey - knuff said


No argument there especially with No.1

Cold Play.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 02:52 PM

This is a hard one, Shayne

No matter which artists one thinks are over rated, others will undoubtedly think otherwise

Anyway here's my first shot:

Miles Davis
Joss Stone

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 03:21 PM

U2.
Bruce Springsteen.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:31 PM

Amy Whinehouse
+1 U2

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:43 PM

Radiohead post OK Computer

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:44 PM

Andrea Bocelli
Andre Rieu ( new Richard Clayderman of the violin world)

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:52 PM

Radiohead post OK Computer


what about Kid A?
I reckon it's my favourite album of theirs. came out after OK computer yes?


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:53 PM

This is a hard one, Shayne

No matter which artists one thinks are over rated, others will undoubtedly think otherwise

Anyway here's my first shot:

Miles Davis
Joss Stone


Nude, that is the whole point of the thread. One persons diamond is another's turd

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:55 PM

Radiohead post OK Computer


Agree, definately radiohead's most overated album.

The bends is a great album, so is Kid A and Amnesiac but I have never got why everyone bandwagoned OK Computer including all the press and reviewers

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:57 PM

Andrea Bocelli
Andre Rieu ( new Richard Clayderman of the violin world)


Ahh Richard Clayderman you crack me up with that one Jasper. :)

I remember him well/not so well - the Fabio of the electric keyboard if I remember correctly and played live on the Midday show quite a bit.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 04:59 PM

what about Kid A?
I reckon it's my favourite album of theirs. came out after OK computer yes?


It's OK, but to me it's nothing special. It was definitely different at the time but not necessarily great like some people make it out to be. The Bends and OK Computer were something special. So if you say Kid A is your favourite it justifies in my mind that's it overrated :) All IMO of course. Thom admitted to writers block after OK Computer and was forced to completely change musical direction due to pressure and lack of musical ideas.

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Edited by Dr X, 23 September 2008 - 05:01 PM.


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:04 PM

Jeff Buckley
U2
Whitlams
Nora Jones
Celine Dion
Coldplay
Elton John
Foo fighters

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:12 PM

Agree, definately radiohead's most overated album.

The bends is a great album, so is Kid A and Amnesiac but I have never got why everyone bandwagoned OK Computer including all the press and reviewers


Sorry mate I think I confused you. I did listen to Kid A and Amnesiac a fair bit and did enjoy them both. They were recorded at the same time which you probably already know. Have barely listened to Hail and Rainbows because after a few tracks I'm Zzzzzzzzzz.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:14 PM

Fun topic.

I can see it becoming animated!

I love all radioheads stuff and have really enjoyed Kid A, Amnesiac, Hail to the Thief, and In Rainbows. My favourite album is still the Bends. I also think OK Computer is overhyped, however take nothing away from teh album as I think it is more the saturation it got at the time which makes me less inclined to listen to it. It is undoubtably a ball tearer of an album.

I found U2 to be dissapointing live (recently). I have found their song writing mostly lacking since achtung baby. I find they rely on supergroup status to sell and album and only seem to try on a few singles now days. Any thoughts DavidSSS?

Christina Aguilera was dreadful live. My wife had a friend pull out and I scored the left over ticket. I will never get that time back. Xtina was sick, about 6db louder than her band and was so bright I had to listen with my ears covered. Luckily she only did a lazy 30 min set in between costume changes and song intro's. She personally owes me whatever my wife paid for the ticket. I rate her as overrated.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:17 PM

It's OK, but to me it's nothing special. It was definitely different at the time but not necessarily great like some people make it out to be. The Bends and OK Computer were something special. So if you say Kid A is your favourite it justifies in my mind that's it overrated :) All IMO of course. Thom admitted to writers block after OK Computer and was forced to completely change musical direction due to pressure and lack of musical ideas.

Cheers.



FYI, The bends, ok computer and Kid A are my top 3 but different order to yours. I like Kid A exactly for that reason, the writer's block bit, they had to go back to the basics and work hard to get that album out.


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:18 PM

ok, who wants to start a new thread "Radiohead albums - your favourite and why?"


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:18 PM

Jack Johnson. He just goes on, and on, and on.......

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:21 PM

Whitney Houston - I wont go into details but a workmate tried to put the bodyguard soundtrack into th car cd player on a road trip. I almost had to leave his body in a shallow unmarked grave. Luckily I fished it out of the cd player as soon as I realised what he had put on and threw it out the car window never to be seen again. I am sorry for littering, but everyone has their breaking point.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:27 PM

Jeff Buckley
U2
Whitlams
Nora Jones
Celine Dion
Coldplay
Elton John
Foo fighters


G'day Jake
Interestingly, I really like Nora Titsoff.

Have to agree with:
* Jeff Buckley (much prefer his dad)
*U2
*Whitlams (Afrodisiac is the one exception)
*Celine Dion
*Coldplay
*Elton John (prefer his stuff before the eighties)
*Foo fighters

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Edited by mr-happy-pants, 23 September 2008 - 05:28 PM.
Doh!

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:29 PM

Jeff Buckley
U2
Whitlams
Nora Jones
Celine Dion
Coldplay
Elton John
Foo fighters


Jake
Just wondering if you've heard the older Elton John stuff like Tumbleweed Connection etc? Before he became a pop star

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:44 PM

I love all radioheads stuff


Im the same, apart from Pablo Honey.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 05:50 PM

Jake
Just wondering if you've heard the older Elton John stuff like Tumbleweed Connection etc? Before he became a pop star


No, and it might be good, but I just think he's overrated is all :)

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:23 PM

Add Powderfinger to my list.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:26 PM

Add Powderfinger to my list.

+1...............

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:33 PM

OUCH, few of my fave artists getting bagged here:mad: just goes to show how peoples impressions vary considerably.........but don't think i mean the Bodyguard soundtrack...i would have chucked it out the window too:D
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 06:40 PM

G'day Jake
Interestingly, I really like Nora Titsoff.

Have to agree with:
* Jeff Buckley (much prefer his dad)
*U2
*Whitlams (Afrodisiac is the one exception)
*Celine Dion
*Coldplay
*Elton John (prefer his stuff before the eighties)
*Foo fighters

MrHP


Actually, I like her voice, and her songs are fine, she just has a voice that is already soooooo hackneyed that I cant stand to listne to her. Mind you, having said that maybe she's not so overrated as annoying (to me). :)

Agree with the Buckleys.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:13 PM

Who the hell said AMY?:):confused:
U2 (bono)
Pearl Jam(Eddie)
Hunters and Collectors (the singer)
SilverChair
Brian Johnson (ACDC)
You am I
OK! this one might cause some gasps; I do have his music and was a huge fan in the late 60's - Jimmi Hendrix:eek:
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:32 PM

Coldplay leaves me , well , cold.Some of their riffs are great but I can't eat a whole one.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:36 PM

This is a tough question as it appears to me that is not about artists you don't actually like per se, just those one perceives are being overrated.

As for some already mentioned, I do think that Radiohead & particularly The Whitlams are very overrated, also the Foo Fighters.

As for The Buckley's, I am a big fan. I got into Tim in the early 80's & Jeff immediately upon his first release & saw him live not long afterwards. I wish I had the opportunity to see Tim live, but alas I was too young & of course he never made it to Aus.

If we were talking about dislikes I'd probably include Elton John, but his early material is fine & I can understand why he has been so successful. So based on what I assume the criteria to be I'd say he isn't overrated, but certainly not a favourite artist of mine.

U2.....yep overrated!

Artists that come to mind that I think are overrated are many of those crooner types of recent year revival. I really like Frank, but Michael Buble, Harry Connick, umm, what's that other guys name about the same age as Buble & plays the piano? Even Tony Bennett. Anyway, I think they lack very much in terms of originality & are far inferior to their predecessors - Overrated!

Silverchair & Wolfmother are examples of recent Aus bands I think have been overrated. Alas for Wolfmother it appears they have disbanded & another band whom I'd categorise similarly, although not exactly the same style of music were JET.

But the music industry has many examples of bands/artists that they hype up, try & extract large sales for most often their own benefit & then simply forget if they fall into difficulaties of various kinds.

This is why artists or bands that survive for long periods are somewhat unique given the overall scheme of things, whether they be The Rolling Stones, Young, Dylan. Elton John, B. B. King, Nick Cave or even Kylie Minogue. For the few artists who have survived there are simpy a huge number who have fallen by the way side.

As I sit here thinking about those overrated & now thinking this would be a greast topic for some kind of thesis, I now think I've hit the jackpot. :)

Having grown up in the Coundown era, I'd have to say the most overrated group of all time is:

ABBA! :confused:

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:39 PM

Ok love his topic - get the boxing gloves out fella's - already got my back up about a couple of the nominations but im sucking itin big time.

So to answer this the artist must be firtly - highly rated (to become overated)
2nd - what is the attribute that most makes them not deserve the high rating

OK my firts instinct was Robbie Williams - my reason cant sing live for shite
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:40 PM

Who the hell said AMY?:):confused:
U2 (bono)
Pearl Jam(Eddie)
Hunters and Collectors (the singer)
SilverChair
Brian Johnson (ACDC)
You am I
OK! this one might cause some gasps; I do have his music and was a huge fan in the late 60's - Jimmi Hendrix:eek:
I'll stop here for a breather:rolleyes:

Jimi?
Oh no Grumpy......please listen to Electric Ladyland once again & then say that directly to me.
And next time we speak, you'd better be able to spell his name correctly - he's a shaking in his grave.:eek:

Edited by Nostro, 23 September 2008 - 07:41 PM.
spelling typo:has=he's


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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:41 PM

OK been sucking it in and cant do it any longer :)- why pick on poor Diana - shes almost the salma of my life!:confused:
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 07:48 PM

OOps wrong list

Edited by joz, 23 September 2008 - 07:50 PM.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:11 PM

Like someone has mentioned,
Andre Rieu - the richard clayderman of the violin!!

add to that:

Lang Lang - the chinese Liberace of today... the technique is certainly there, the musicality is promising if a little iffy/questionable at times, but the bad acting... :eek:sigh... and to the channel 7 olympics commentator that had the nerve to suggest that "Lang Lang is THE best pianist of today" please stop smoking whatever you are smoking as its addling your brain cells...

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:20 PM

At last I can get it off my chest.....
I HATE THE EAGLES
They took the "country rock" baton from the stupendously fantastic Gram Parsons and proceeded to soften, commercialise and blandify it. And sell a bazillion albums in the process, compared with Gram who sold about 132.
The horror, the horror!

And to those guys who mentioned U2, good call:)

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:25 PM

OK been sucking it in and cant do it any longer :confused:- why pick on poor Diana - shes almost the salma of my life!:eek:


Diana baby...she's a stunner for sure. I think she has a superb voice, great control (she hasnt rung me once this week :)) and I love her tone, but she is a very much down the line singer. By that I mean there is no edge to her performances, nothing that stands out as being different or special. She's just a babe with a great voice, which is maybe why she has made it into this list.
She's sounds to me like a product of the New York club circuit, like John Pizarelli. He's brilliant too, but the style is very mainstream and New Yorky.

Anyway I lashed out and bought The Very Best of Diana Krall on 180g vinyl, and its bloody amazing. This is easily the best quality recording on vinyl I have heard, just perfect. Fantastic backing band too of course, some of the best money can buy - Christian McBride, Russell Malone etc.

But yeah, she's over rated. :)

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:47 PM

Like someone has mentioned,
Andre Rieu - the richard clayderman of the violin!!

add to that:

Lang Lang - the chinese Liberace of today... the technique is certainly there, the musicality is promising if a little iffy/questionable at times, but the bad acting... :eek:sigh... and to the channel 7 olympics commentator that had the nerve to suggest that "Lang Lang is THE best pianist of today" please stop smoking whatever you are smoking as its addling your brain cells...

AB


No argument there. :)
Lang Lang's histrionic makes me cringe big time. Someone needs to let some air out of his cranium for his long term well being.:confused:

I prefer Yundi Li.

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:50 PM

Fair enough Jake

I'm going to pick Jesus Christ - Superstar - gets great raings as an artist but gee the musical sucked!:)

Just stirring their Jake!:confused:
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:51 PM

Jimi?
Oh no Grumpy......please listen to Electric Ladyland once again & then say that directly to me.
And next time we speak, you'd better be able to spell his name correctly - he's a shaking in his grave.:)

One M, sorry NNostro:D. Jimi was a great fresh guitarist back then, but the hype that has occurred around his God like status since then is way over the top in my opinion.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 08:51 PM

-Nick Cave & Bob Dylan - good songwriters but for chrissake give their material for others to sing.
-Eminem
-Frank Zappa (though I like some of his axe work)
-White Stripes
-Sex Pistols
-Rolling Stones - post 80's
-Nirvana - all but 3 of their songs are shite
-Metallica - besides the Puppets and Black albums the rest is crap
-Every Rap artist

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 09:02 PM

Madonna,can't sing and rides on the back of other peoples talent [namely producers]

Oasis....I like the tunes but have you really listened to the lyrics?...total unfathomable nonsense.

Jimmy Page...sure he wrote and produced some of the seminal songs of the 70's with Led Zep, but if you really listen to his guitar playing it's so sloppy,bum notes all over the place partially masked by copious overdubs.

U2....they were a breath of fresh air when they first hit the music scene,I don't know what happened, but everything after Rattle and Hum has seemed a pointless exercise,sort of like the later Matrix movies.[I still haven't forgiven Bono for lousy marksmanship when he started talking with me at a urinal a few years ago,yuk]

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 09:13 PM

-Nick Cave & Bob Dylan - good songwriters but for chrissake give their material for others to sing.
-Eminem
-Frank Zappa (though I like some of his axe work)
-White Stripes
-Sex Pistols
-Rolling Stones - post 80's
-Nirvana - all but 3 of their songs are shite
-Metallica - besides the Puppets and Black albums the rest is crap
-Every Rap artist


basically agree with all those. cept there is a huge difference between good rap/hip hop and commercial crap.

no explanation included unless someone specifically asks:
robbie williams
u2
rage against the machine (mr effects tom morello)
jack johnson

im sure i could sit here and list artists all day.
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Posted 23 September 2008 - 09:17 PM

-Metallica - besides the Puppets and Black albums the rest is crap


Ever listened to

...And Justice For All

and

Ride The Lightning?

BTW In Absentia as far as Porcupine Tree albums go is overated :)

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Posted 23 September 2008 - 09:32 PM

James Taylor
whacko Jacko
LRB
Little Johnny Farnham
MC5
Phil Collins (top of the list)
Fleetwood mac after the Stevie Nicks takeover
The Eagles
Paul Weller post Jam

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