Started looking at projectors..,.

[Kaynin]

Howdy,

 

I've started looking at projectors to replace the 65" Pannie ST, so just looking at doing a bit of research at this stage and seeking advice on makes/models.  Following details are relevant -

 

• Room dimensions at 4m (W) x 5m (L);
• Viewing distance is about 4.2m;
• There's a ceiling fan in the dead center of the room that hangs to 34cm;
• Has to be a ceiling (not wall/table) mount projector because there are windows behind the sitting position;
• A fairly bright room throughout the day, even with curtains drawn;
• Due to the ceiling fan it's important that the lens can be adjusted for alignment without affecting the image;
• Budget of $5,000 for projector only;
• Budget of about $1,000 or so for a fixed screen.

So having said that, I went to the Big Picture People today and looked at the Sony VPL-HW55Es.  The image was fantastic, the colours really popped and movement was smooth.  Detail and clarity was excellent, and appeared to be very quiet.

 

I got home and measured out a 110" and also 120" screen.  We could fit the 120", but it makes things tight on the left & right sides, and new speakers will end up there - unfortunately I don't know which ones so have no idea on their dimension...the 110" sized well, but of course is not as large!

 

Any thoughts or suggestions?

[avalon27]

check out the jvc models if you can

[Kaynin]

check out the jvc models if you can

 

Okay, awesome, will do.

 

Plenty of time to look around, thanks yardley.

[Steam]

I have a JVC X3 and its been excellent over the last few years. So would get JVC again if it had the required features.

I will add that our room is reasonably well lit. During the day you can see the picture but it's not great. That doesn't really matter because we are not normally home during the day. But it can be bad in summer daylight saving. So if you want to watch daytime TV then you will need some way to control the light or get a very bright PJ.

Also the bigger the screen the dimmer your picture will be so bigger is not necessarily better.

[Kaynin]

Thanks @Dr Nick, I'll certainly check out the JVC range, just a bit of quick googling and I've come across the DLA-X500 in the same price range.

 

We're considering pelmets on the curtains, which would help a lot.  It's not that it's a bright daylight room when the curtains are closed, they are block out and do a good job - but it's just not pitch black, that's all.  Likely light control will be an decent option, if required.

 

Thanks for the heads up on the screen size, I wasn't aware of that.  The screen size is going to be a difficult decision, and so considering the room is relatively light during the day then this may makes things worse.  90% of our viewing time is like you, during the evening.

[betty boop]

need to decide if you want to watch during the day or not. if do....its absolutely essential you get curtains with full block out. pelmets. even the smallest crack of light creeping through you will find kills the experience. direct light on the screen will impact hugely. indirect tends to impact as well.

 

the sony would be an excellent choice. just be very carefull with it. there are limitations in its zoom and lens shift. you need to check this with all projectors...is throw, and shift to make sure will do the size screen you want in your setup, given projector location limitation.

 

I would most definitely suggest check out the JVCs and also the epson equivalent (both give excellent result and more flexible in installation). can read a little ditty I wrote back here, about a year back comparing the two

 

http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/54020-jvc-long-weekend-with-some-comparisons-back-to-the-epson-9000w/

 

ceiling mounts are not a problem just get a mount with a pole which will give you enough clearance to clear the bottom of the ceiling fan. the pj at minimum will have to be placed under the celing fan.

 

a good ceiling mount with pole is the peerless precision gear mount (I use the prg-exa), which can pick up from B&H photo,

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/593184-REG/Peerless_Industries_PRG_EXA_PRG_EXA_Adjustable_Projector_Ceiling_Wall.html

 

awesome projector mount and will be needed with any of these serious projector, to not only securely mount but also to dial to perfection.

 

as far as screen size, its really quite easy. it depends on the kind of immersion your after. my suggestion dont go over board, keep to THX spec on immersion and in image height go around 2.3 to 3 image heights should be seating distance from the screen

 

some good tips from screen technics here,

 

http://www.screentechnics.com.au/faq.php

 

and do go for a good screen, an excellent projector as your looking at in the price bracket also deserves a good screen. its where literally the image comes to light we are also very lucky with some excellent local product in lp morgan, screen technics and oz theatre screens.

 

I would also er away from high gain screens, they tend to hot spot and have very narrow viewing angles, stick with 1.1-1.2 gain and will find plenty. gain isnt a huge concern in any case for kind of screen sizes you will be looking at brightness be needing.

 

personally if you can ... I would keep the panasonic for most day time and general viewing and perhaps consider a motorised screen that drops down the front. that way can also have best of both worlds.

 

we have 8 windows in our room plus leading off to light filled rooms. we can mostly block out light in the day for excellent result. but if we do just want to watch some tv without all the curtains/blinds all shut the plasma is an excellent option. we tend to use it for most every day tv. with the projector coming on for big screen events, movies etc. both work well for our space.

 

ps and dont go such a huge screen it ends up compromising the positioning of your speakers. they need room to breathe

 

my personal suggestion....with a 5m deep room ...eg what we have...keep the main seating postion off the back wall it will help your acoustics as well, plus give you choice of using rear speakers.... use the rule of 1/3rds that puts you sitting at the ~3m point. could have your screen come down say 0.5m in front of your plasma...and leave 1.5m behind you for acoustics... that puts a 92" screen at ideal distance to fully resolve High definition...and at THX spec for full immersion. a 92" screen leaves enough space either sides for speakers...rather than have them squashed up against the side walls ...that would be a screen size as small as I would go ... how much bigger...well thats upto you and how much closer you can bear or want to sit

[Steam]

Also in your costing don't forget the projector bracket. In general they ain't cheap. It's easily overlooked in the excitement of the hunt for the unit.

[Kaynin]

Also in your costing don't forget the projector bracket. In general they ain't cheap. It's easily overlooked in the excitement of the hunt for the unit.

 

 

Thanks Dr. Nick, the budget of $5k mentioned is solely for the projector, so extras such as bracket/install/power/HDMI etc. is separate 

 

On budget, although it's at $5k, we can go higher if the unit is worth it.  If someone suggested a model for $6k I'd look at it, and then decide if the extra $$$ are worth the result to me (but I'd imagine anything over $6k would be excessive).  At this point, I'm confident $5k will deliver what I'm after.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Kaynin

[Kaynin]

Thanks @ al 

 

I've checked out your links and also your thread, you've saved me a lot of work and helped narrow the process, as have other contributors!

 

- Watching during daytime - yes, it will happen, likely 10% of the time.  As mentioned, we have black out curtains, but they're only 1/2 length (that is, don't go all the way to the floor).  Of course they cover all the window, but much light escapes from the bottom.  We considered pelmets, so as an experiment placed towels over the top to seal the windows.  This was to excellent effect - except light escaping the bottom area and slightly from the sides is still an issue.  We also considered roller blinds inside the windows and therefore inside the curtains - but aren't certain this will give us complete block-out.  Of note, there is no direct light on the screen area within the room.

 

So, we're considering external shutters on the 3 windows.  We have them in our bedroom and they provide complete 100% block-out, extra insulation and when retracted don't impede on the windows.  Obviously this adds cost - but the pelmet option requires them being added to 7 windows to maintain continuity in the whole living area anyway.  The shutter option is guaranteed to black out the room.

 

 

- Will keep in mind the importance of the throw/lens shift for our set-up.  I advised the sales rep at BPP of our set-up, he stated the Sony would do the job, but I'll ensure I go into further detail about this as decision time gets closer.

 

- I read your write up on the Epsdon vs JVC.  I'll add the Epsom to the list along with JVC.  In the blind test I actually liked the overall colours in the Epsom, to be honest.  But, at the end of the day, I would be happy with an end result of either.

 

- How has the JVC come along now that you have had it a while?  I note your test model ran much noisier than your purchased product.  This is a significant issue for me as we will be sitting directly under the unit (in the first attached image the pj will be centrally above the 3 seat couch).

 

- That Peerless mount looks like the trick!  I think has saved me a search for one.  The whole of the pj unit is fine to sit under the height ceiling fan as we have 9" ceilings so there's room between the ceiling and windows.  I checked measurements and it doesn't impede on the widow.

 

- Looking at seating distance (4.2m) vs screen size divided by 3 we'd be looking at a screen height of 55".  A 110" screen's height is 54" and 120" is 59".  Based on that - as well as allowing front speakers extra room to breathe as well as extra room under the screen for gear and the centre channel I think I'll go 110".

 

- I've book marked the 3 sites for screens you supplied, I'll look into them down the track.  A quick search for screens has them up to $2k or so, I was thinking around $1000 - $1200 should suffice?  If you think this limiting and wouldn't do the pj justice, let me know!  Also have noted in keeping a screen gain of 1.1-1.2.

 

- I can't use standard rears in the room because of double doors in one corner (see below image), so currently have ceiling mounts.  I can't install rears on the side walls or rear corner of the room due to 820mm doorway clearance.  Not 100% ideal but have decent effect.  My only other option is to install flush wall mount rears and then use the ceilings mounts as rear-heights.  Either way, the seating arrangement is pretty much set as against the rear wall...

 

 

- wall mounting the pannie 65 plasma and using a motorised projector isn't out of the question.  Have to give this some thought and see what the wife thinks (ha!).  It's certainly doable, but not sure if that's going to be ideal.  If we go the shutters, then the sale of the 65" would offset this, and also provide a very dark room.  Food for thought...

 

 

So far on the list I have Sony VPL-HW55ES vs Epson EH-TW-9200W vs JVC DLA-X500.  If there's a model better suited, don't hesitate to suggest!  Would imagine that, ultimately, one of these will fit the bill...

Edited July 20, 2014 by Kaynin

[betty boop]

shutters would be a very expensive option kaynin. there is another….if don't want to do pellmets….you can do what I saw at another forum members place, instead of the towels….a bit more permanent...where you cut mdf the length and width to fill the gap of the top of curtains and affix them to the top of the curtain rails. alternatively go to clarke rubber and get some foam cut the length and width required (to replace the towels). very discrete and blocks any light leakage up towards the gap between the curtains and in-between the curtain rails. for the leakage at the bottom. we have full length curtains and I use door sausages (those long things used at bottom of doors to stop drafts)….you could do the same…just place them on the window sills…or alternatively more clarke rubber sections (something else have seen a forum member do).

 

be careful with sales reps…I got the same from my local BPP..until we sat down looked very closely at my measurements of where everything would be going (screen  and projector) and then realised himself the sony wouldn't work.

 

some things to do….do you have a blank wall to project on ? if you do I would get the projector first with the screen to follow. this will help you no end ! you can play with zoom on the projector watching various material and decide yourself what is best screen size that hits the spot and that you are comfortable with.

 

with regards projectors, regardless of all sorts of stuff you will read on the net all three projectors you have listed are excellent in end result ! the epson was second epson projector have owned and out of box it is most natural in colour just matter of running it on the lowest power setting ECO and using its THX colour space setting..having done a calibration on it can say with confidence out of the three it is the most natural looking. an extremely flexible projector too with best zoom and image shift to easily place in a room given screen sizes. the epson too you would be surprised has heaps of light output and even with all lights on in dynamic settings(not best colour balance) will be quite fine watching sport and such.

 

good review on the jvc here,

http://www.projectorreviews.com/jvc/jvc-dla-rs4910-and-dla-rs49-projector-review/

 

the jvc needs a few selections to get pretty close in natural look, a calibration would get more out of it, but probably fine for most. It doesn't have as much up the sleeve in light output. but the ace up its sleeve is its adjustable iris which means you can dial up he output from it given you screen size and as lamp ages keep creeping up in iris to compensate. others like the epson you have to go step changes in the various power settings. 3D on he JVC isn't as good as on the epson, but youd need to look carefully and know what your looking for to notice. what you get is superior optics though to the epson, better overall sharpness and consistency across the screen even when using the image shift. You get slightly less flexibility in zoom and shift but its still pretty flexible for most setups. in 2D i.e. watching most movies etc nothing will touch the JVC. the jvc is the 2D king ! 

 

the sony like the epson is better 3D wise, though not quite as good as the epson still. it is bit better in light output than the JVC. the optics on the sony aren't as good as that on the jvc (the sony uses some plastic lens elements) and out of box the sony lags the pack, to my eyes a touch green blue tinge to its picture. it does come with full calibration ability though so can dial in to perfection if needed. in zoom and lens shift it isn't as flexible as either the jvc or epson and this will catch the odd person out ! 

there is a comprehensive review of the sony here,

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/review-sony-vpl-hw55es-home-theater-projector/

 

in my opinion the jvc would be a step up from it in 2D and would be my first choice for PQ, the epson would be the bang for buck option. the sony more hitting for middle ground.

 

your fortunate in that you can check all these options out before buying. would suggest apart from BPP to also pop by the cable connection locally that usually has both epson and jvc installed and working. will give you a good feel of what these projectors are like.

 

re seating positioning. given the room I likely would have positioned the back couch about in line with the side couch. and therefore side surrounds would have gone in between the two side windows and wall opposite. that would leave wall mountable rear speakers above the windows on the back wall. the ceiling mounted rears you could leave for ceiling rear heights for dolby atmos and like but heck its not my room or system so you go with what you feel comfortable with. a room needs to be a comfortable space to kick back and enjoy. 

 

keep in mind a shift in viewing style when you go with a projector. just keep in mind having to sit in darkness all the time isn't the most sociable of ways of watching. it can constrict on every day tv. opening and closing adjoining doors etc. its why am suggesting if have a lovely plasma like the pana 65" its worth keeping. can use it for every day TV. also keeping in mind with the awe full fta TV quality we get the smaller screen plasma is probably more suitable for that material leaving the projector for blu-rays that the projector will really show off. also resale on flat panels, let alone large ones is pretty bad, would hate to take a hit on that and better off to keep and enjoy ! 

 

re screens $1000-$1200 would be absolute minimum would spend I think. more like around $2k mark would suspect. sometimes these nice screens do pop up second hand so chance can pick up at 50% off.

 

re my jvc, have been most impressed ! just on one year old, it is quiet. I'm pretty sure the loaner I had was just a a noisy unit. no problems with noise on the jvc. in use it is a stunner PQ wise. 

 

just as a note the next 6 months is going to be exciting time projector wise, usually around september cedia usually brings new projectors. not sure if jvc will have a new model or a refresh of the range. but worth looking out for if not in a hurry. otherwise theres CES in jan that might be worth checking for new releases as well.

[Kaynin]

shutters would be a very expensive option kaynin. there is another….if don't want to do pellmets….you can do another which I saw at another forum members place, instead of the towels….a bit more permanent...where you cut mdf the length and width to fill the gap of the top of curtains and affix them to the top of the curtain rails. alternatively go to clarke rubber and get some foam cut the length and width required (to replae the towels). very discrete and blocks any light leakage up towards the gap between the curtains and in-between the curtain rails. for the leakage at the bottom. we have full length curtains and I use door sausages (those long things used at bottom of doors to stop drafts)….you could do the same…just place them on the window sills…or alternatively more clarke rubber sections (something else have seen a forum member do).

 

be careful with sales reps…I got the same from my local BPP..until we sat down looked very closely at my measurements of where everything would be going (screen  and projector) and then realised himself the sony wouldn't work.

 

some things to do….do you have a blank wall to project on ? if you do I would get the projector first with the screen to follow. this will help you no end ! you can play with zoom on the projector watching various material and decide yourself what is best screen size that hits the spot and that you are comfortable with.

 

with regards projectors, regardless of all sorts of stuff you will read on the net all three projectors you have listed are excellent in end result ! the epson was second epson projector have owned and out of box it is most natural in colour just matter of running it on the lowest power setting ECO and using its THX colour space setting..having done a calibration on it can say with confidence out of the three it is the most natural looking. an extremely flexible projector too with best zoom and image shift to easily place in a room given screen sizes. the epson too you would be surprised has heaps of light output and even with all lights on in dynamic settings(not best colour balance) will be quite fine watching sport and such.

 

good review on the jvc here,

http://www.projectorreviews.com/jvc/jvc-dla-rs4910-and-dla-rs49-projector-review/

 

the jvc needs a few selections to get pretty close in natural look, a calibration would get more out of it, but probably fine for most. It doesn't have as much up the sleeve in light output. but the ace up its sleeve is its adjustable iris which means you can dial up he output from it given you screen size and as lamp ages keep creeping up in iris to compensate. others like the epson you have to go step changes in the various power settings. 3D on he JVC isn't as good as on the epson, but youd need to look carefully and know what your looking for to notice. what you get is superior optics though to the epson, better overall sharpness and consistency across the screen even when using the image shift. You get slightly less flexibility in zoom and shift but its still pretty flexible for most setups. in 2D i.e. watching most movies etc nothing will touch the JVC. the jvc is the 2D king ! 

 

the sony like the epson is better 3D wise, though not quite as good as the epson still. it is bit better in light output than the JVC. the optics on the sony aren't as good as that on the jvc (the sony uses some plastic lens elements) and out of box the sony lags the pack, to my eyes a touch green blue tinge to its picture. it does come with full calibration ability though so can dial in to perfection if needed. in zoom and lens shift it isn't as flexible as either the jvc or epson and this will catch the odd person out ! 

there is a comprehensive review of the sony here,

http://www.projectorreviews.com/sony/review-sony-vpl-hw55es-home-theater-projector/

 

in my opinion the jvc would be a step up from it in 2D and would be my first choice for PQ, the epson would be the bang for buck option. the sony more hitting for middle ground.

 

your fortunate in that you can check all these options out before buying. would suggest apart from BPP to also pop by the cable connection locally that usually has both epson and jvc installed and working. will give you a good feel of what these projectors are like.

 

re seating positioning. given the room I likely would have positioned the back couch about in line with the side couch. and therefore side surrounds would have gone in between the two side windows and wall opposite. that would leave wall mountable rear speakers above the windows on the back wall. the ceiling mounted rears you could leave for ceiling rear heights for dolby atmos and like but heck its not my room or system so you go with what you feel comfortable with. a room needs to be a comfortable space to kick back and enjoy. 

 

keep in mind a shift in viewing style when you go with a projector. just keep in mind having to sit in darkness all the time isn't the most sociable of ways of watching. it can constrict on every day tv. opening and closing adjoining doors etc. its why am suggesting if have a lovely plasma like the pana 65" its worth keeping. can use it for every day TV. also keeping in mind with the awe full fta TV quality we get the smaller screen plasma is probably more suitable for that material leaving the projector for blu-rays that the projector will really show off. also resale on flat panels, let alone large ones is pretty bad, would hate to take a hit on that and better off to keep and enjoy ! 

 

re screens $1000-$1200 would be absolute minimum would spend I think. more like around $2k mark would suspect. sometimes these nice screens do pop up second hand so chance can pick up at 50% off.

 

re my jvc, have been most impressed ! just on one year old, it is quiet. I'm pretty sure the loaner I had was just a a noisy unit. no problems with noise on the jvc. in use it is a stunner PQ wise. 

 

just as a note the next 6 months is going to be exciting time projector wise, usually around september cedia usually brings new projectors. not sure if jvc will have a new model or a refresh of the range. but worth looking out for if not in a hurry. otherwise theres CES in jan that might be worth checking for new releases as well.

 

 

   Thanks Al.

 

- We're happy to do pelmets, but it's the bottom of the curtains that are the issue.  We discussed full length curtains, but neither of us are keen on this.  Regarding price, pelmets will be the same at shutters (we've had quotes recently on shutters for 3 windows, as well as pelmets for 7 windows!).  We don't mind spending the money as a solution, and I know the wife would be happy with shutters 

 

- Yeah i can easily get the projector first and then the screen later, and this sounds like a good idea.  That way i can play with it and decide on appropriate size.

 

- I'll read those reviews on the JVC & Sony.  Most importantly, I'll head out to Cable Connection and view the JVC and Epson, only a 20 min. from me.  I have a feeling the JVC is looking good, but can't really tell until i see in person.

 

- I'll have a look at wall mounted rears down the track, options are either brackets above the windows or lower ear level positioned (very) flat/flush mounts on the wall.  I haven't finalised the gear in that room yet with components and speakers to come, but the projector is just 1st on the long list!

 

- I hear you with the duel projector and plasma set-up, will consider this because we're 1/2 way there I guess!  We have another viewing area in the lounge which is more social, and tend to watch our FTA and general sort of stuff on that, so rumpus won't be all 100% of our viewing time.  But I'll certainly turn my mind to it...

 

- Screen - gotcha, $2k it is for the budget!

Edited July 20, 2014 by Kaynin

[Jliang70]

I would sugget you to include in the budget a calman or chromapure calibration kit.  You are going to spend a lot of money on a set up and it worth the effort to calibrate the projector.  Over the life of the projector the lamp will drop in brightness you will find yourself recalibrating the projector again and again. 

[Steam]

So far as I'm concerned 3d is a gimmick.

[Kaynin]

So far as I'm concerned 3d is a gimmick.

 

+1.  I really don't have any interest in 3D.  I have 2 TV's with 3D and no glasses - and no intentions of buying any either!

[Kaynin]

I would sugget you to include in the budget a calman or chromapure calibration kit.  You are going to spend a lot of money on a set up and it worth the effort to calibrate the projector.  Over the life of the projector the lamp will drop in brightness you will find yourself recalibrating the projector again and again. 

 

 

I've used Avical in the past on a plasma to excellent result, I was going to get them to calibrate the projector when the time comes - http://www.avical.com.au/

 

I take it we're talking the same thing? - but one is a professional who comes to the home and the other is do-it-yourself kit/disc?

[Satanica]

So far as I'm concerned 3d is a gimmick.

 

Nah, take 3D Avatar for example, it is the reference. The 2D version is it's poor cousin.

[Jliang70]

If you are buying a projector then I would suggest you buy a calman or chromapure calibration kit yourself rather than rely on Avico to do it for you.  The reason is over the life cycle of a projector lamp you are likely to recalibrate the projector more than once, unlike plasma the brightness is very stable so there is no requirement to recalibrate after the first few hundred hours,  projector on the other hand will get dimmer and dimmer and will require further calibration.   I know I have done around 4 calibrations on my projector over the period of around 2000 hours on my JVC projector.  I had a bit easier than most I just did a basic two points greyscale adjustment and then use the auto calibration feature of lumagen video processor did the rest on 10 points greyscale adjustment and colour calibration.   I think a pro calibrator will charge around $300-$450 and a good calibration package more or less pay for itself plus you can use it on your other display devices .

[Kaynin]

If you are buying a projector then I would suggest you buy a calman or chromapure calibration kit yourself rather than rely on Avico to do it for you. The reason is over the life cycle of a projector lamp you are likely to recalibrate the projector more than once, unlike plasma the brightness is very stable so there is no requirement to recalibrate after the first few hundred hours, projector on the other hand will get dimmer and dimmer and will require further calibration. I know I have done around 4 calibrations on my projector over the period of around 2000 hours on my JVC projector. I had a bit easier than most I just did a basic two points greyscale adjustment and then use the auto calibration feature of lumagen video processor did the rest on 10 points greyscale adjustment and colour calibration. I think a pro calibrator will charge around $300-$450 and a good calibration package more or less pay for itself plus you can use it on your other display devices .

Thanks for the heads up. Avical are $600 - $700 for a calibration on a projector. Wasn't aware they need calibrating several times, but certainly makes sense.

Edited July 21, 2014 by Kaynin

[betty boop]

+1.  I really don't have any interest in 3D.  I have 2 TV's with 3D and no glasses - and no intentions of buying any either!

 

I felt the same with 3D and flat panels….until the previous projector I had in the epson came with 3D and I got a taste …with some movies made for 3D. quite amazing. there is a big big difference with 3D via flat panels which are far too small to really give you immersion…vs 3D via a projector where THX spec immersion can be achieved with depth into the screen and depth out into the room really does add another dimension of reality. Am talking movies here where 3D isn't used as gimmick but more for sense of realism. And can be extremely effective. the best moment I have was when we got the 3D projector and I popped in an Imax 3D under water blu-ray I had. my little daughter was literally running around the room trying to catch the fish floating around in the room ! 

 

which ever projector you do buy, 3D is a bonus now days. keep an open mind…like myself a 3D sceptic feeling a complete waste of time, you might feel otherwise appreciating what it brings….otherwise nothing lost nothing gained….

[betty boop]

Thanks for the heads up. Avical are $600 - $700 for a calibration on a projector. Wasn't aware they need calibrating several times, but certainly makes sense.

 

the good news is … can't speak for the sony, but whether buying an epson or the JVC, out of box and with some selections its going to look pretty d@mn good. I wouldn't bother with a calibration for at least 200 hours so the panels in the projector have a chance to settle down…after that you can decide for yourself whether you want to buy the calibration gear or getting a calibration…. I bought the calibration gear….and ended up selling it ...

 

don't get me wrong though, I do think calibration is fully worth it..and if had the time would probably one day buy the gear and get around to it. pro calibrations on PJs are definitely worth doing if have the cash to get the very best out of your projector. but for me probably a fair bit of cash would say to invest which certainly can save if doing yourself

[Kaynin]

Okay, will be a wait and see then.

[Kaynin]

I'm about to start looking at 3 projectors, with one being the JVC DLA-X500.  I can find display models for the other two, but not this JVC unit.  I called The Cable Connection in Mulgrave and they don't have one on display at the moment, and likely 3 months off.

 

Does anyone know a location in Melbourne that displays JVC projectors?  (Ideally the model mentioned)...

[betty boop]

big picture people, cleff hifi are a couple of jvc retailers can think off. alternatively could ring jvc and ask who has it on demo  

[Kaynin]

That's the way, thanks @ al.

 

One other issue has popped up.  The Peerless mount you have previously recommended, the PRG-EXA is no longer available in white, which is the colour we'll need.  I found an Amazon store that had a white one in stock, but they quoted $300 to ship it out!!!  That's twice the price of the unit itself just in shipping!

 

I might start to look at other options locally - what's the important feature to look at with projector mounts Al?

[betty boop]

That's the way, thanks @ al.

 

One other issue has popped up.  The Peerless mount you have previously recommended, the PRG-EXA is no longer available in white, which is the colour we'll need.  I found an Amazon store that had a white one in stock, but they quoted $300 to ship it out!!!  That's twice the price of the unit itself just in shipping!

 

I might start to look at other options locally - what's the important feature to look at with projector mounts Al?

 

oh no no please dont buy another mount, honestly they are utter rubbish by comparison. the peerless has to be seen and used to understand how good it is ! 

 

B&H photo is one I got mine from, seem to have it in black,

 

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/593184-REG/Peerless_Industries_PRG_EXA_PRG_EXA_Adjustable_Projector_Ceiling_Wall.htmlhttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10525470&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi

 

and appears to be in white, but called a PRGs ? wonder if its a new model ? in spec and description reads the same as the previous

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/980486-REG/peerless_industries_prgs_exa_w_prg_series_adjustable_projector.html

 

and shipping is likely to cost you, but trust me it really is worth it