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[Dismord]

Overrated;

Jeff Buckley (by far)
Foofighters (close 2nd)
U2
Bruce Springsteen
Bob Dylan

Underrated;

Ben Harper
Rainbow
Black Sabbath (with DIO)
Deep Purple (with Steve Morse)

Well that list has me thinking categorising musicians with simplistic terms such as Overrated & Underrated is somewhat pointless in the light of certain bands/ artists inconsistency. Take for instanse Bob Dylan. He's put down some of the most brilliant and some of the most pathetically bloody awful tracks of all time. In fact it's my opinion that popular music, as opposed to un-popular forms such as classical. is mess of the bad and the good. If you don't believe that look at the rise of single tracks sold ( and stolen) on-line at the expense of albums.

[surfpurple]

Well that list has me thinking categorising musicians with simplistic terms such as Overrated & Underrated is somewhat pointless in the light of certain bands/ artists inconsistency. Take for instanse Bob Dylan. He's put down some of the most brilliant and some of the most pathetically bloody awful tracks of all time. In fact it's my opinion that popular music, as opposed to un-popular forms such as classical. is mess of the bad and the good. If you don't believe that look at the rise of single tracks sold ( and stolen) on-line at the expense of albums.

I see your point about artists 'inconsistency', as someone earlier rated 'Neil Young' overrated (he is one of my all time favs), but I can clearly see their point. Neil Young has such a huge following and avid listeners BUT he is an aquired taste (just like Bob Dylan). So I could see how some would describe both of those artists as 'overrated'.

I like this thread as it makes you look at the artists from a different point of view. And you can start to learn why some of your own favs. are overrated by other people.

[caddisgeek]

Over: *see below
Under: Gil Scott-Herron

*couldn't really think of anyone like GSH. His overt political stances and fast paced spoken word/poetry has had a huge influence on rap. I almost put down Michael Franti (Spearhead/Disposable Heroes of Hypocracy) as MF has borrowed so much from GSH and is certainly more well known to Gen X's. However MF is hardly a household name and a fine artist in his own right. But if you like MF and haven't heard GSH it would be a crime. And if you like GSH check out Spearhead & Michael Franti. A great A/B is GSH's 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised' against the Disposable Heroes of Hypocracy's 'TV the Drug of a Nation' - easily YouTubed

Over: Michael Franti (post Disposable Heros)

Under: GSH

Edited by caddisgeek1, 05 April 2012 - 09:10 PM.

[caddisgeek]

Well that list has me thinking categorising musicians with simplistic terms such as Overrated & Underrated is somewhat pointless in the light of certain bands/ artists inconsistency. Take for instanse Bob Dylan. He's put down some of the most brilliant and some of the most pathetically bloody awful tracks of all time. In fact it's my opinion that popular music, as opposed to un-popular forms such as classical. is mess of the bad and the good. If you don't believe that look at the rise of single tracks sold ( and stolen) on-line at the expense of albums.

Either that or you are overthinking a silly game made up by some nerd on the interweb waaaaayyyyyyy to much

[rehabitat]

Yep, it's all about taste, opinion, the relativity of each comparison and a bit of harmless fun

Over - Celtic Frost 1984 - 1993

Under - Celtic Frost 2001 - 2008

nihil verum nisi mors

[surfpurple]

And some more fun,

over - Paul Kelly

under - Steve Winwood

[Ralph]

Overated: Diana Krall
Underrated: Janet Siedel

Diana is good, but Janet is a far better caberet / Jazz singer and is Australian.

Edited by Ralph, 05 April 2012 - 10:13 PM.

[rantan]

Over: John McLaughlan

Under: Roy Buchanan

[surfpurple]

over - eric clapton

under - Rory Gallagher

[houdinifangs]

Over: James Blake
Under: Nicolas Jaar

[Dismord]

Either that or you are overthinking a silly game made up by some nerd on the interweb waaaaayyyyyyy to much

Maybe my point IS that it's a silly game?

[rehabitat]

Good point. We hope you're enjoying it, nonetheless...


Over - FZ
Under - Captain Beefheart

[caddisgeek]

Overrated - GUNS&ROSES.

Underrated- ROSE TATTOO.

......and it's goodnight from me, Dingo.

Nope, my inner bogan can't argue with that (as much as I love the Gunners)

[surfpurple]

under - The Faces (with Rod Stewart) (and his early albums)

over - Humble Pie

[surfpurple]

Nope, my inner bogan can't argue with that (as much as I love the Gunners)

+1 as much as I love the Gunners too!

[houdinifangs]

Over: Wilco
Under: Mice Parade - 'What it means to be left-handed' is a good place to start. MP is kinda experimental indie pop with some world and electronic touched. Sorta like a hybrid between the Lemonheads, Sonic Youth, Jim O'Rourke (equally over and under), a flamaco guitarist and a laptop. Another good album, although you need to be patient, is 'Collaborations'. That album has extended pastoral remixes by Jim O'Rourke and Nobukazu Takemura (really underrated electronic artist - check out 10th or Sign)

[THOMO]

OVER
Led Zeppelin
Nirvana
Rolling Stones
Elvis Presley
Inxs


UNDER
Bruce Springsteen-Listen to early Bruce albums like Greetings From Asbury Park and The Wild,The Innocent and The East St Shuffle.
Willie Nelson-A master musician,singer and songwriter in a wide range of musical genres.
Traincha-A truly great singer without any African American gospel "diva style" wailing, warbling or over-singing.
Jacqui Dankworth-As above.
Bruce Cockburn-You can even forgive his political excesses because his music is so entrancing.
A.J. Croce
Lisa Ekdahl
Tim Hardin

[soundfan]

I'm not into over rating artists as one mans meat is........

I think a lot of posters here seem to over rate artists simply because they don't like them, without researching and appreciating the impact they have made on other musicians and the general music loving fan.

Under rated: Joe Henry. Excellent artist whose albums are rightfully critically praised, but his work seems to slip under the radar.

Edited by soundfan, 06 April 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[THOMO]

I'm not into over rating artists as one mans meat is........

Under rated: Joe Henry. Excellent artist whose albums are rightfully critically praised, but his work seems to slip under the radar.

Yes I agree

[Dismord]

UNDER
Willie Nelson-A master musician,singer and songwriter in a wide range of musical genres.

If I could cope with his blocked sinuses, or whatever medical problem it is that causes the horrid nasal sound, I'd agree.
Same reaction to Maria Callas who to my ears always sounds as if she's singing with a mouth full of custard.
In short, it doesn't matter how much talent you've got if the physical equipment is defective.

[houdinifangs]

I think a lot of posters here seem to over rate artists simply because they don't like them, without researching and appreciating the impact they have made on other musicians and the general music loving fan.

Have to disagree. Have noticed many posting artists as 'over' even though they are fans of the artist. I think the 'over' provides a pretext for the 'under' rather than undermining/discrediting the 'over'.

Embrace the inner relativist...

[RockandorRoll]

Have to disagree. Have noticed many posting artists as 'over' even though they are fans of the artist. I think the 'over' provides a pretext for the 'under' rather than undermining/discrediting the 'over'.

Exactly, mine are more used to give a basis band for the genre and a style guide which shows the most popular band in that subset of musical genres

[surfpurple]

Have to disagree. Have noticed many posting artists as 'over' even though they are fans of the artist. I think the 'over' provides a pretext for the 'under' rather than undermining/discrediting the 'over'.

Embrace the inner relativist...

I have to agree here.

While I'm a huge fan of Neil Young, I can see how others (who can't stand his voice) would think he's overrated.

I also can see ( from the Bruce Springsteen comment) that a lot of 'older' artists were best in their early years BUT a lot of people don't have access to that era and only judge on the 'latter' years. (Take Rod Stewart, Elton John, etc), they ALL 'rocked' in their early years but not a lot of non-avid listeners would know.

I am finding this thread very informative (while reading between the lines), and it makes you think a bit more about other peoples 'views' on all these artists or bands.

[MC240]

Overated: You

Underrated:Me

[Dismord]

Have to disagree. Have noticed many posting artists as 'over' even though they are fans of the artist. I think the 'over' provides a pretext for the 'under' rather than undermining/discrediting the 'over'.

Embrace the inner relativist...

Sorry, I don't have one but if I did it would give me permission to ignore your suggestion. But hey, this isn't the place for epistemological discussion.

[surfpurple]

over - country and western

under - metal

[MC240]

Overated: epistemological discussion

[rehabitat]

Over - sex
Under -music

[surfpurple]

I would comment on that reply (if I had a clue what that word meant)

!..epist (I am pissed)..mol (moaning out loud)....ogical (no logic).....I got it!..... I am drunk and I'm mumbling someting illogical about music!

Edited by surfpurple, 06 April 2012 - 12:33 PM.

[MC240]

I would comment on that reply (if I had a clue what that word meant)!

The branch of philosophy that studies the nature of knowledge, its presuppositions and foundations, and its extent and validity.

[surfpurple]

The branch of philosophy that studies the nature of knowledge, its presuppositions and foundations, and its extent and validity.

Thanks MC. Still over MY head, ...but that's no surprise!

[surfpurple]

Over - sex
Under -music

Wish I could say the same!

[houdinifangs]

Overated: epistemological discussion

Yes. But here we are none the less. Better open a can of eschatological whoop ass on that...

[caddisgeek]

Over: DSOTM

Under: Meddle

Edited by caddisgeek1, 06 April 2012 - 01:33 PM.

[Dismord]

Over - sex
Under -music

Try them together next time ducky.

[comfortablynumb]

Over - sex
Under -music

Hmmmm....you can't be doing it right !!!

Not the music....the other one.

[k-k-k-kenny]

Overrated: Steve Vai.
Underrated or almost forgotten: Jeff Beck.

I didn't realise Jeff Beck played junk

Overrated: The Monkees
Underrated: The Cowsills

Overrated: Bob Marley & The Wailers
Underrated: Toots & The Maytalls

Overrated: AC/DC
Underrated: Humble Pie

[rehabitat]

Try them together next time ducky.

I have and can confirm that whole is greater than the sum of it's parts

Having kids soon puts a stop to that.

Hmmmm....you can't be doing it right !!!

Not the music....the other one.

Well I do my best, but I can make music last even longer

Edited by rehabitat, 06 April 2012 - 08:38 PM.

[caddisgeek]

Over - sex
Under -music

soemone beat me to it

Edited by caddisgeek1, 06 April 2012 - 08:30 PM.

[rehabitat]

Was it about the kids or the extra length?

[caddisgeek]

I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore

[caddisgeek]

over: Janes Addiction

under: Alice Donut

[surfpurple]

Over : Jeff Buckley

Under : Tim Buckley

[rantan]

I'm not even sure what we're talking about anymore

Knowing what this place is like, the topic has probably drifted to Bacon.