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[caddisgeek]

This might be interesting, name an overrated artist/band, but then name an underrated artist/band which is of the same ilk, or is somehow related It's not a case of "this band is better than that band", but more of "these guys dont get the recognition they deserve"

for example

Overrated: The Beatles

Underrated: The Pretty Things

and

Overrated: Pearl Jam

Underrated: Mudhoney

Edited by caddisgeek1, 03 April 2012 - 07:00 AM.

[houdinifangs]

Ok I'll play

Over:
Tool, Burial, Miles Davis, Neil Young
Note - I like these artists but they are well over rated

Under:
Zomby, Marc Ribot, The Czars, Fever Tree

[Dismord]

Well, here's an odd one I never thought I'd be pushing - it's not a band as such though. Kylie Monogue's studio CD's are way, way overrated. Her live performances are way, way underrated. If you think that's a large claim have a look at the DVD of her Sydney concert titled. 'On A Night Like This' ( sometimes titled as "Live In Sydney'). The band put together for that tour, the back up singers and Ms K herself give an astonishing performance. I'd always put Kylie Monogue at the bottom of the bubble gum pop trash category. One night at a friends I was forced into watching this concert and have been utterly spellbound by it ever since. OK, there are one or two songs that don't work. If you get hold of the DVD start with track 16, her version of "Let's Get Physical'. I defy anyone to not be moved by it - it's almost enough to turn me hetro. Still can't abide her CD's though - they're like Madonna's equally plastic efforts.
Overrated amongst vintage artists ( is that the right term?)
Queen
ELO
Elton John
Talking Heads
Underrated
Supertramp
J J Cale.
Fleetwood Mac

Edited by Dismord, 03 April 2012 - 01:36 PM.

[soundfan]

Ok I'll play

Over:
Tool, Burial, Miles Davis, Neil Young
Note - I like these artists but they are well over rated

Under:
Zomby, Marc Ribot, The Czars, Fever Tree

Lol, of course these are your opinions and I respect that, but calling someone like Miles Davis over rated is going too far. He is one of 2 or 3 of the greatest jazz musicians going.

He essentially invented cool and modal jazz, he was one of the prime developers of hard bop, and he unleashed fusion upon the world. And then there's that fluid,sparse,incredibly romantic trumpet style: nothing quite like it on earth.



I don't like the Beatles much.... but would never call them over rated.

Edited by soundfan, 03 April 2012 - 11:53 AM.

[rantan]

What a great topic.

Over rated:
Neil Young
Adele,
El Camino
David Bowie
Radiohead
PJ Harvey
Katie Melua
Bon Iver
Bruce Springsteen
Lady Antebellum
The [ modern day ] Rolling Stones....they should have quit gracefully about 10 years ago.
Rhianna
Tori Amos

There are many more in either category, but I don't want to bore you into a slumber

Under rated:
Trampled Under Foot
Dave Alvin
Babe Ruth
Tommy Emmanuel
The Beatles [ this is a retort to another post ]

Edited by rantan, 03 April 2012 - 12:00 PM.

[caddisgeek]

I think people are missing the point, please name one overrated artist/band, then someone from the same sphere who is underrated

Overrated: Kiss

Underrated: The Dictators

[caddisgeek]

or

Overrated: The Buzzcocks

Underrated: The Undertones

[rantan]

OK.

Over rated:
Bon Iver.

Under rated:
Trampled Under Foot [ OK....... I know the name sucks, but have a listen if you can]

[sligoriverblues]

Overrated: Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings
Underrated: King Khan & His Shrines

Overrated: Wynton Marsalis
Underrated: Bill DIxon

Overrated: Keith Jarrett (I like some of Jarret's work a lot, most notably Bremen / Lausanne!!!)
Underrated: Cecil Taylor

[Batty]

Overrated: Steve Vai.
Underrated or almost forgotten: Jeff Beck.

[Dismord]

Duplicate post deleted

Edited by Dismord, 03 April 2012 - 01:36 PM.

[houdinifangs]

Lol, of course these are your opinions and I respect that, but calling someone like Miles Davis over rated is going too far. He is one of 2 or 3 of the greatest jazz musicians going.

He essentially invented cool and modal jazz, he was one of the prime developers of hard bop, and he unleashed fusion upon the world. And then there's that fluid,sparse,incredibly romantic trumpet style: nothing quite like it on earth.



I don't like the Beatles much.... but would never call them over rated.

Muh ha ha ha

Over: Miles Davis - On the Corner

Under: Herbie Hancock Thrust

Over: John Coltrane

Under: Eric Dolphy

[Zammo]

Sorry guys, but saying Miles Davis is overrated is like calling bacon overrated.

Some things in life you can never get enough of.....Miles and Bacon are two.....IMHO of course.

Edited by Zammo, 03 April 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[houdinifangs]

Over: Bacon
Under: Parma Ham

I'm in for it now....

[rondine]

over rated: Genesis
under rated: Family

ron

Edited by rondine, 03 April 2012 - 06:37 PM.

[Zammo]

Over: Bacon
Under: Parma Ham

I'm in for it now....

O.k. Houdinifangs. I'll raise you.

Over: Parma Ham
Under: Jamon Iberico pata negra.

[houdinifangs]

O.k. Houdinifangs. I'll raise you.

Over: Parma Ham
Under: Jamon Iberico pata negra.

I have to agree as long as I'm not paying...

[LuzArt]

Overrated:
U2
Whitney Houston
Hilltop Hoods

Underrated:
Kings Of Convenience
Modest Mouse
Ron Sexsmith

[rehabitat]

Over - Nirvana
Under - Melvins

[rantan]

Sorry guys, but saying Miles Davis is overrated is like calling bacon overrated.

Some things in life you can never get enough of.....Miles and Bacon are two.....IMHO of course.

Two things.

1. Bacon is over-rated
2. A modicum of both are sufficient for my happiness.

[Jake]

O.k. Houdinifangs. I'll raise you.

Over: Parma Ham
Under: Jamon Iberico pata negra.

How can Jamon from the black pig be under rated? It is well regarded as the finest of all Spanish cured hams.


Over - Yes
Under - Midlake

[houdinifangs]

Over - Nirvana
Under - Melvins

+ Fudge Tunnel under

How bout this on a similar theme:

Over: Butch Vig
Under: Steve Albini (although he seems to have enough tickets on himself to cope)

[rehabitat]

+ Fudge Tunnel under

How bout this on a similar theme:

Over: Butch Vig
Under: Steve Albini (although he seems to have enough tickets on himself to cope)

LOL, as Bhobba would say, "abso-friggen-lutely". I don't think Butch goes out in the wind much either

Over - Tool
Under - The Young Gods

[Zammo]

How can Jamon from the black pig be under rated? It is well regarded as the finest of all Spanish cured hams.


Over - Yes
Under - Midlake

Yes, it's well rated by those in the know, but I've spent too much time off topic. So here.

Over: Diana Krall
Under: Youn Sun Nah

[RockandorRoll]

Over - Clapton
Under - JJ Cale

Over - Iron Maiden
Under - Nevermore

Over - Dimmu Borgir (how many mallrats wear this)
Under - Old Mans Child

Over - Mastodon Under -
High On Fire Under -

CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by RockandorRoll, 03 April 2012 - 08:37 PM.

[rantan]

Hell Yeah.

How could I have overlooked sweet Diana for the over-rated gong. Still..........she is far nicer to look at than Elvis Costello who is her husband and who is also luridly over-rated

[rehabitat]

Yesss ^^ JJ Cale is the king of cool. I'm with you on Mastodon too and would say that their buddies, The Dillinger Escape Plan are under-rated by comparison

[holdencaulfield2007]

An Aussie perspective
Over
Kylie (always surrounds herself with talented singers and dancers to disguise her mediocrity). Learnt the technique from Madonna
AC/DC post Bon (IMO the band should have died when Bon did)
Under
Jeff Duff ( a unique talent)
Doug Parkinson (criminally under recorded)

[rantan]

Continuing the Oz theme:

Over-rated: Inxs
Under-rated: Richard Clapton { only I know his birth name ]

[LHC]

(need to strap on a frame-proof vest for this)

Overrated: Cold Chisel
Underrated: Air Supply

Context: 1980 TV Week / Countdown Music Awards (Most Outstanding Achievement)

(yes, I should move on)

[caddisgeek]

Over: John Coltrane

Under: Eric Dolphy

I must disagree, no amount of hyperbole could adequately describe Coltrane


but yes, every serious record collection should contain Out to Lunch

Edited by caddisgeek1, 03 April 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[holdencaulfield2007]

Continuing the Oz theme:

Over-rated: Inxs
Under-rated: Richard Clapton { only I know his birth name ]

Due to his heritage I would surmise it would be a Chinese name.

[Dismord]

An Aussie perspective
Over
Kylie (always surrounds herself with talented singers and dancers to disguise her mediocrity)

I agree about the singers and dancers and add musicians but I disagree about her mediocrity

. Learnt the technique from Madonna

No, Madonna has been struggling to copy Monogue's live performances for years and has failed miserably.

AC/DC post Bon (IMO the band should have died when Bon did)

From my perspective it's a shame any of them were even born but hey, I'm a real snob when it comes to white boy rock and roll of the Oz kind. Makes me cringe.

Under
Jeff Duff ( a unique talent)
Doug Parkinson (criminally under recorded)

Indeed but the question is why? His reluctance? Ignorant recording company?

Edited by Dismord, 03 April 2012 - 09:45 PM.

[ayou2]

Over - Jeff Buckley
Under - Bob Seger

Over - New Order
Under - The Prodigy

Over - Oasis
Under - Ocean color scene

[houdinifangs]

Over: (insert contemporary extreme metal act of choice)
Under: Carcass

[rehabitat]

mmmm Carcass. I have mixed feelings about them. I really enjoy the grind of Symphonies of Sickness but the following albums leave me a bit cold (longer self indulgent songs, of which I like only certain parts). I saw them play in the early 90s at the Phoenecian Club in Sydney (classic venue, long since defunct) and they were exhausted after playing an all-ages show earlier that day, so I came away pretty disappointed.

Over - (insert early "Bay Area" thrash band of choice)
Under - Coroner (Swiss progressive thrash par excellence)

[ayou2]

Over - Deep Purple
Under - Black Sabbath

Over & over & over & over - Pink Floyd (try hard hippy drivel of the highest order)
Under - The Byrds

[ayou2]

Over - RHCP
Under - Kings of Leon (as much as hipsters now knock them and like to pretend they never owned one of heir albums, you can't deny the uniqueness that was Aha Shake Heartbreak & you can't deny it was a staple of every hipster black coffee drinking hangout of the earlier 2000's)

Edited by ayou2, 03 April 2012 - 10:20 PM.

[rehabitat]

ouch! you better don your flak jacket

[RockandorRoll]

while the cool kids are talking metal

Over - Metallica
Under - Testament and Exodus

Taking the big 4 to the big 6

[ayou2]

Over - Kanye West (any one who vocoders an entire album is masking something)
Under - Jurrasic 5

[ayou2]

while the cool kids are talking metal

Over - Metallica
Under - Testament and Exodus

Taking the big 4 to the big 6

Over - Slayer
Under - System of a Down (

[caddisgeek]

Over: Metallica post Cliff
Under: Cliff

[caddisgeek]

Over: Parkway Drive
Under: Damaged