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[Super Mustud]

Pilfered from another forum!

[Whatmore]

Nope, definitely released by the Gillard posse, planting the seed that it was released by the Rudd crew in order to make it appear that the Gillard homies did it.



Word.

no you've all got it wrong.
I was posted by Abbott's mob to fan the flames of disunity within the ALP

[LogicprObe]

All the while the Greens are behind Gillard 100%.
They know they'll never get a better puppet.

[Super Mustud]

Rudd is a mechanistic martinet who thinks that people work in a linear clockwork fashion.

Part of the downside of the "scientific method" that has been useful in developing iPads and turbo engined cars however of no use at all in predicting how people will behave.

He will always appear logical and will always fail.

[LogicprObe]

[holdencaulfield2007]

I have a good old chuckle when Rudd is purported to be a martinet, tyrant, knobhead,autocratic, yada yada etc . There is no way of knowing if this accurate or just falsehoods spread by his political enemies.
What is undeniable is that the Labor Party was swept to power under Rudd and a rusted on PM even lost his own seat. He has every right to be annoyed at not being able to helm a re election campaign. Most people would have slinked off in a huff but he stuck it out as he is entitled to do. Personally I would welcome him back as ALP leader, preferably before the next election.
BTW the swearing brouhaha is a non issue. Swearing is common in Australia and many magistrates rule that it is no longer offensive. It is just another beat up non story!

[yardley]

It's been released by the Rudd camp for sure, planting the seed, that it was the Gillard supporters have released it.

maybe it was released by the americans

[Super Mustud]

I'm sure there was a jug of milk involved somewhere in the chain.

[Full Range]

All this media attention and we have a challenge a coming
Labor insiders ready for leadership vote next week


Snip-

February 19, 2012 21:02:12 Labor's leadership crisis appears to be near breaking point with supporters on both sides telling the ABC the brawl could be resolved as early as this time next week.
The Labor caucus is due to meet next Tuesday, February 28 unless a special meeting is called to put the party leadership, and therefore the prime ministership, to a vote. An earlier meeting seems unlikely as Kevin Rudd is overseas this week.
At this point, it is not clear if the Prime Minister Julia Gillard would call a spill for the leadership or if Mr Rudd would launch a challenge.
Factional powerbrokers have told the ABC's political editor Chris Uhlmann the issue must be brought to a head.
One member of the Gillard camp says, "There will be an outcome in 10 to 14 days but it's up to Kevin to call it."

Rest of the article is here
http://www.abc.net.a...86/?site=sydney

FR

[Super Mustud]

I have a good old chuckle when Rudd is purported to be a martinet, tyrant, knobhead,autocratic, yada yada etc . There is no way of knowing if this accurate or just falsehoods spread by his political enemies.
What is undeniable is that the Labor Party was swept to power under Rudd and a rusted on PM even lost his own seat. He has every right to be annoyed at not being able to helm a re election campaign. Most people would have slinked off in a huff but he stuck it out as he is entitled to do. Personally I would welcome him back as ALP leader, preferably before the next election.
BTW the swearing brouhaha is a non issue. Swearing is common in Australia and many magistrates rule that it is no longer offensive. It is just another beat up non story!

Oh, I think there is a lot of evidence out there about Rudd's character.

I actually have no difficulty in him getting the job back. It would be even better theatre than we have now.

Its entertainment. Very little to do with government.

[Super Mustud]

All this media attention and we have a challenge a coming
Labor insiders ready for leadership vote next week


Snip-


Rest of the article is here
http://www.abc.net.a...86/?site=sydney

FR

Yes, this line in particular is a cracker. Truly excellent stuff.

The source said Mr Rudd is likely to lose and then issued this vicious warning: "We will unleash bloody vengeance on all of those who brought this vampire back to life."

[Full Range]

If someone was to write a factual book about this period of time i.e.- about the current subject
Most people would not believe it is non fiction

This is better than a daily soap program & gets people polarised
FR

[LogicprObe]

New one.

[Telecine]

Yes, this line in particular is a cracker. Truly excellent stuff.

The source said Mr Rudd is likely to lose and then issued this vicious warning: "We will unleash bloody vengeance on all of those who brought this vampire back to life."

He or she who lives by the sword, dies by the sword or perhaps in this case a wooden stake.

[el toro]

Yeah, so according to the ABC, it's on.

Part of me hopes krudd wins if only to satisfy that nagging justice/revenge angle. But I did enjoy the idea that we had our first female PM.
What a disappointment she's been however. As some have put it, the midas touch in reverse, with all the charisma of a ticket inspector on public transport.

The jockeying and intrigue of the leadership issue would make great sport/theatre.

The only thing that holds me back from getting really caught up in it is that I keep thinking.... aren't these people supposed to be RUNNING THE COUNTRY!

[DoggieHowser]

The Education Minister was interviewed on telly this morning and was asked what his views were on the leadership challenge. I guess he wasn't expecting that. They were supposed to be grilling him on the report on Education due this week.

He said something about loyalty and principles and the reporter pretty much asked him "what loyalty and principles"? (I suspect in relation to how Rudd was kicked out). Thought he squirmed a bit.

He was then asked if he would quit the cabinet if Rudd came back to power.

More squirming.

Edited by DoggieHowser, 20 February 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[el toro]

"what loyalty and principles"

Four words that sum up the modern ALP.

Careerists and operators as exemplified by the member for Dobell. Bit short of readies when it comes time to pay your 'hostess'....no worries, just whack it on the union card.

And these belly dragging scumbags end up sitting in our federal parliament?

Something is deeply, depressingly wrong with that picture.

[el toro]

El Toro,

I truly agree with you. Beautifully put, and my background was slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan.......

Hugh

Lucky you're on the right of him, apparently he killed, barbequed and ate the bloke on the left!

[AKSA]

Too far right, and you turn full circle........ something about a snake eating its own tail??

Hugh

[yardley]

steve smith might be the dark horse

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

He SHOULD still be Prime Minister! After all it was HE (NOT Julia) who was voted in by us Australians!

Well, not quite. Julia Gillard was voted in as PM at the last election. Did you forget?

BTW: Did you ever vote for Rudd?

If you didn't, then you have no right to complain either way.

[LogicprObe]

Well, not quite. Julia Gillard was voted in as PM at the last election. Did you forget?

BTW: Did you ever vote for Rudd?

If you didn't, then you have no right to complain either way.

The only people who can vote for Rudd are in the electorate of Griffith.

[yardley]

Well, not quite. Julia Gillard was voted in as PM at the last election. Did you forget?

BTW: Did you ever vote for Rudd?

If you didn't, then you have no right to complain either way.

the people didnt vote gillard in. that is what hes saying.

[Full Range]

the people didnt vote gillard in. that is what hes saying.

Gillard did go to the last election as the leader of the Labor party
She formed government with the help of key independents because both Labor & Liberal had/won the same amount of seats

FR

Edited by Full Range, 20 February 2012 - 04:55 PM.
spell

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

the people didnt vote gillard in. that is what hes saying.

And he is wrong. Julia Gillard was voted in, along with the ALP, in coalition with the Greens and Independents. IOW: Gillard is the legitemate leader of this nation. And, I'll ask again (with more precision): Did SP vote for Labor, when Rudd was leader of the Labor Party?

If SP did not vote Labor, then he has no right to complain.

[yardley]

And he is wrong. Julia Gillard was voted in, along with the ALP, in coalition with the Greens and Independents. IOW: Gillard is the legitemate leader of this nation. And, I'll ask again (with more precision): Did SP vote for Labor, when Rudd was leader of the Labor Party?

If SP did not vote Labor, then he has no right to complain.

i thought julia stabbed kevin in the back to get the job....

[Whatmore]

And he is wrong. Julia Gillard was voted in, along with the ALP, in coalition with the Greens and Independents. IOW: Gillard is the legitemate leader of this nation. And, I'll ask again (with more precision): Did SP vote for Labor, when Rudd was leader of the Labor Party?

If SP did not vote Labor, then he has no right to complain.

I guess one of the fundamental tenets of a free democracy is secrecy of votes. No-one, not even SP, can be obliged to reveal for whom they voted.

In any event, surely non ALP voters are allowed to complain about the ridiculous theatre that is happening in Canberra

[Art Vandelay]

All I can say is "Bring back Mark Latham".

[Whatmore]

i thought julia stabbed kevin in the back to get the job....

Yes, and then she went to an election and survived as PM

[DoggieHowser]

i thought julia stabbed kevin in the back to get the job....

But she did call for an elections after that incident and won that, albeit with a lot of back room dealings with the Greens and Independents.

[Art Vandelay]

But she did call for an elections after that incident and won that, albeit with a lot of back room dealings with the Greens and Independents.

That and, "There will be no Carbon Tax under a government I lead" .

[Full Range]

i thought julia stabbed kevin in the back to get the job....

Yes Julia did stab Kevin in the back
Then a few months later went to an election
Have you missed an election ??
Dont blame you

[yardley]

But she did call for an elections after that incident and won that, albeit with a lot of back room dealings with the Greens and Independents.

now shes stabbing the independents in the back...

[Full Range]

now shes stabbing the independents in the back...

Is there a pattern in all of this
FR

[Super Mustud]

Yes Julia did stab Kevin in the back
Then a few months later went to an election
Have you missed an election ??
Dont blame you

Then she stabbed Australia in the back.

[comfortablynumb]

That and, "There will be no Carbon Tax under a government I lead" .

She told the truth....

Gillard does not "lead" this Government.

[MC240]

i thought julia stabbed kevin in the back to get the job....

No the Labor caucus flicked him.

[yardley]

looks like this is a labour forum

[Whatmore]

looks like this is a labour forum

labour or labor?

[yardley]

why doesnt julia look after australians? since shes been in office its the neutral....

[Art Vandelay]

She told the truth....

Gillard does not "lead" this Government.

Yes, good point. It was also the 'other' Julia, so we should not be too harsh.

[yardley]

labour or labor?

labor i meant whatmore. lucky we have people like you the internet police spellers

[yardley]

She told the truth....

Gillard does not "lead" this Government.

so if gillard is not leading the government who is?

[MC240]

What about Reith / Downer and the porky's about the children over board.Howard and WMOD. Nah the Liberals never lie.

[Whatmore]

labor i meant whatmore. lucky we have people like you the internet police spellers

yes it's very impotent to spill correclty