58 replies to this topic

[Jake]

How would you rate your listening ability?

[Drizt]

Poll ???????

[ehtcom]

I would rate myself as Cloth-ears, or maybe realist.

[wolster]

I reckon I can tell when a tweeter is blown but a golden ears I 'aint.

[Drizt]

Would anyone really claim to be a audiophile golden ears

[emesbee]

I don't reckon I'm cloth ears, but I'd certainly know if the tweeter had blown.

[MC240]

I don't tweeter, but I am on facebook and myspace.

Pretty good, but don't think I can hear minute changes.

[cheekyboy]

What was that??

[brumby]

I can tell Bach from Beethoven

Does that count?

[guru]

critically listening and evaluating audio equipment for 28 years as a full time profession gives me somewhat of an edge in how i perceive what i hear, not what anyone else hears. "golden ears" as a state or reference point is only education, knowledge and resources to make a change and being aware of how and why. nothing mystical, just observation and experience both positive and negative.

[mrrock]

Like guru said, it's not about your hearing ability, it's about learning what to listen for

[Jake]

Like guru said, it's not about your hearing ability, it's about learning what to listen for

That's why the poll asks about listening ability.

[RockandorRoll]

shouldnt have made the Middle option, also known as the default option. Thats what i went with

[Jake]

shouldnt have made the Middle option, also known as the default option. Thats what i went with

Yeah, the easy way out


Sent from eyefone.

[datafone]

I don't think the term "Golden Ears" has a place in this hobby.

It has condescending aspects to it when ever used in forums, but I can detect small changes.

[tisb0b]

I can tell the difference between speakers and headphones and thats about it.

[emesbee]

I can tell Bach from Beethoven

Does that count?

Glad you have a Handel on it.

[emesbee]

I can tell the difference between speakers and headphones and thats about it.

I can't. Headphones are speakers.

[Drizt]

I can't. Headphones are speakers.

Headphones sound way different to non-headphone speakers

[Drizt]

I don't think the term "Golden Ears" has a place in this hobby.

It has condescending aspects to it when ever used in forums, but I can detect small changes.

Congrats to the first person to select that they have golden ears Kudos for being honest.

[datafone]

It's all different from one person to another Drizt, what may be a minute difference for one person may be a lot more noticeable to another, and the other way round..

I was trying to NOT pick the first one because of the term "Golden Ears", as the term has no place in this hobby IMO as I stated before, but the second one didn't seem to be a good fit either.

[Jake]

20 years ago I would have selected the first choice, but my ears have suffered the ravages of time and industrial noise.

[datafone]

Yeah, working in factories and machine shops ect' is no help.

Same goes for concerts performed at crazy SPLs, worse for those that favored standing near the stacks

[Demondes]

Welcome to stereo net where we are all above average. HA HA

[A J]

Where's Kajak - ??

[datafone]

Welcome to stereo net where we are all above average. HA HA

No idea where you get that from, we here are a broad and varied bunch, with views that match.

Ah...I see now

[kajak12]

I don't think the term "Golden Ears" has a place in this hobby.

It has condescending aspects to it when ever used in forums, but I can detect small changes.

+1 datafone i can detect small changes

[:) al]

Like guru said, it's not about your hearing ability, it's about learning what to listen for

spot on ! and helps if familiar with system, material etc. makes spotting changes all the easier as comfortable enough with the baseline or standard. so any deviations more apparent

but yeah if dont know what changes listening for can make pretty hard to pick them even if familiar with the system sound and material !

[Drizt]

+1 datafone i can detect small changes

The golden ears option is the right one for you then

[kajak12]

The golden ears option is the right one for you then

I know a lot of people that can hear small changes they know what to listen for nothing mystical.

[Jake]

I know a lot of people that can hear small changes they know what to listen for nothing mystical.

Then they can all select the top option.

[Dustin]

Hmmmm . . . I may not be able to detect small changes.

But I can detect when other people say they can . . but really can't.

[ENIGMA]

I believe for most of us, this is not so much whether you have 'goldern ears' but whether you have learn't what the differences are. You need to expose yourself to different systems and sources to understand the broader picture.

Having plasma tweeters myself for two years I noticed i am able to notice the differences between tweeters more than before.

I find for myself that i generally can walk past systems playing and easily pick up whether they are good or not without focussing, but have learnt from others what makes up the various differences i'm hearing. I have also noticed my hearning is sensitive to certain types of noises but fine with music.

I also believe that some people are naturally gifted at assessing the results of what they hear.

I sit between the golden ears and pretty good.

[triode12]

What about detecting if the system is out of phase, doesn't that count as good?

[kajak12]

Hmmmm . . . I may not be able to detect small changes.

But I can detect when other people say they can . . but really can't.

Can you prove it?

[datafone]

Hmmmm . . . I may not be able to detect small changes.

But I can detect when other people say they can . . but really can't.

Interesting that you can detect what someone else's ears are doing, that's definitely one the the scientific journals.

Do you imagine other things too?

Edit: What I really wanted to say is BULL****!

Edited by datafone, 25 January 2012 - 08:31 PM.

[Dustin]

Can you prove it?

WHAT? . . you don't believe me?

[Dustin]

Interesting that you can detect what someone else's ears are doing, that's definitely one the the scientific journals.

Do you imagine other things too?

Edit: What I really wanted to say is BULL****!

Well you're closer than you might think with your last comment . . with which I agree, by the way.
But it's not really about detecting what someone else's ears are doing.

Not sure how to explain this but it's more a feeling of Déjà moo . .
You know . . it's that feeling you get when you suddenly realise you've heard this bull**** somewhere before.

[datafone]

Well you're closer than you might think with your last comment . . with which I agree, by the way.
But it's not really about detecting what someone else's ears are doing.

Not sure how to explain this but it's more a feeling of Déjà moo . .
You know . . it's that feeling you get when you suddenly realise you've heard this bull**** somewhere before.

So!
Because you can not hear small changes, you are convinced that nobody else can?

You really need help with that one.

[Drizt]

So!
Because you can not hear small changes, you are convinced that nobody else can?

You really need help with that one.

Dustin is right, I don't think he needs any help.

[datafone]

Dustin is right, I don't think he needs any help.

And because you say he is right....there is no question about it?

I think the pair of you really need to lower ya' self obsession factor

[Dustin]

So!
Because you can not hear small changes, you are convinced that nobody else can?.

I don't think that's what I said, did I?
Let me check back . . .

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Nup, looks like I didn't.

But didn't we have this Déjà moo conversation previously?
I thought we came to the conclusion that some people can't even decide what might constitute a small difference . . let alone figure out if they can hear it or not . . . but I could be wrong*.


* When I say "I could be wrong", I don't really mean it. I just say that so that people think I'm conciliatory.

[datafone]

No, I think you imagined that too

[LogicprObe]

I'm not going too bad for someone who's going deaf!

Wot!?

[andyr]

Where's Kajak - ??

He only listems with tubes ... by definition, he is an audiophile!!

Regards,

Andy