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#1 The Fez

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:22 PM

Anyone know of a decent BDP that can also stream wirelessly FLAC files over wifi from Windows XP? Preferably <$1k
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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:23 PM

BDP93 Oppo?

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

BDP93 Oppo?


oppo great -- thanks
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:35 AM

Just wondering if anyone else is using PS3 Media Server software to stream to their Oppo. I found out by accident that it will comunicate with the Oppo as well as the PS3. Works great with audio and video. Only issue is the PS3 is much faster browsing the files than the Oppo, but the better audio performance from the Oppo is worth the slowness. Also as the Oppo is N speed wireless it doesn't buffer like the PS3's slower G speed.

My PS3 is connected via EOP now to get around this issue but the Oppo hasn't had any issues coping wirelessly yet. Not sure if it would handle full blown 1080 resolution but so far so good.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:13 AM

Anyone know of a decent BDP that can also stream wirelessly FLAC files over wifi from Windows XP? Preferably <$1k


I'm saving up for the Cambridge 751BD. Pretty certain both Cambridge models (651BD and 751BD) will do this. The 751 is a little over the $1k mark, but the 651 comes in under $1k although the Wifi dongle is an optional extra.
The Pioneer BDP-LX55 is another one that supports FLAC and has optional WiFi.

As far as I know the Yamaha, Denon and Marantz equivalents don't support FLAC or Wifi.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:58 PM

Just bought the Oppo bdp-93 :D
At under $600... what's not to love?! maybe I'll buy the NUFORCE audio upgrade down the track...
What's attracting you to the Cambridge over this Oppo or its big brother?

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:00 AM

Just bought the Oppo bdp-93 :)
At under $600... what's not to love?! maybe I'll buy the NUFORCE audio upgrade down the track...
What's attracting you to the Cambridge over this Oppo or its big brother?


I don't think the Cambridge 751 has anything over the Oppo 95 except the local pricing. From what I've seen, the Cambridge is about $200-$300 less.
Price aside, I'd be happy with either. Both do everything I want, and appear to do it well.
With either of these you get a great Blu-Ray/DVD/DVD-A/SACD/CD/HDCD Player, great media streaming device (including support for FLAC) and great DACs all in the one product.

I'd be just as happy with the Oppo 93 or Cambridge 651BD too, except that they lack a dedicated 2-Channel DAC and associated Stereo Analog output. I believe the multi-channel analog output on these can be configured that way, but I need separate multi-channel and stereo analog outs:
- Multi-channel to my Processor for DVD-A/SACD 5.1 playback
- Stereo direct to my Receiver for playing back 2-channel DVD-A/SACD, CDs, and streamed stereo source material.

I could go with the Oppo 93 or Cambridge 651 and an external DAC, but with the quality of the 2-channel DACs in the 751 and the 95, I don't see the point in adding another piece of kit to the system. What would I need to spend on an external DAC to better the DACs in the 95 or the 751?
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:13 AM

I recently used the optical output of the Oppo 95 to the EMM Labs XDS1 so I could use the EMM's DSD DAC on DVDA as well. Pretty damn nifty :)

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:28 AM

What would I need to spend on an external DAC to better the DACs in the 95 or the 751?

Not really sure... I would think $400ish?

The bdp-93 arrived today (sent on the 1st Feb, arrived on the 6th Feb!). Landed cost of a 95 would be about AU$1100, but apparently installing region free yourself is too tricky. When international dynamics starts distributing in a few months time the RRP of a 95 will be $1299 http://www.stereo.ne...-as-Distributor

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:35 AM

Is the 1299 price inclusive of the region free mod for BD?

Ps not sure if any guys use the Oppo to play back ISO files but from what I understand future Oppo firmware will disable this feature. I think it works for SACDR ISOs currently. Which is a really convenient way of making backups of your SACDs if you have the right PS3

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

Not really sure... I would think $400ish?

The bdp-93 arrived today (sent on the 1st Feb, arrived on the 6th Feb!). Landed cost of a 95 would be about AU$1100, but apparently installing region free yourself is too tricky. When international dynamics starts distributing in a few months time the RRP of a 95 will be $1299 http://www.stereo.ne...-as-Distributor



Same as RRP for the 751BD. I'm not in a hurry, so it sounds like I'll have a choice when I'm ready to buy. I'll keep an open mind and investigate the '93 + External DAC option while I'm waiting.
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Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:17 PM

Don't think it would be the region free one. It would be the AU region most likely for $1299 - but they'll have service/warranty in Aus

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:33 PM

the cambridge 751BD for aussie blu-ray region B and region free for dvd you can buy pretty close to the $1k mark. with some arm twisting.

http://www.audiotren...arch_submit.y=0

yep will stream flac and media interface is better than the oppos I think. I had the oppo95 before the 751 :D the cambridge by the way does stream iso format as well. for how long have no idea :)

and yes 2 year local warranty on the cambridge :)
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:15 AM

I am so close to pulling the trigger on the 751 over the 95, you have had both? I must ask , which do you feel sounds better in CD mode?
I am wishing to replace my CDP with this all whistles and bells unit. Purely for stereo use. Quad 34/303/57's.
I feel the "british" item may be more to my likeing.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:32 PM

what are peoples opinions of the modified oppo95 (Nuforce / Modwright or JLTi) over the standard units or their competition, universal players or dedicated CD/SACD/DAC's playback? Is the audio improvement (most are pushing audio playback not visual) worth the extra cost, has anyone compared them?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:51 PM

personally I think the oppo95 is good value at what it is. modding with upgrades mentioned seems to add ridiculous amounts to the price. I would be wanting to be able to do a back to back comparisons between a stock unit and the modded one in your system to make sure for yourself whether the mod is worth the additional.

personally in case of the mods and I know there is a bit of a following but if you look at total cost modded you want to then also be looking around what other units around for the same money. I wouldnt be taking the claims made by the modders often. you want to be finding out for yourself :P
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

I am so close to pulling the trigger on the 751 over the 95, you have had both? I must ask , which do you feel sounds better in CD mode?
I am wishing to replace my CDP with this all whistles and bells unit. Purely for stereo use. Quad 34/303/57's.
I feel the "british" item may be more to my likeing.


better ? to be perfectly honest for cd/sacd I dont think much between the oppo or the 751. below some of my thoughts I posted recently on 751 vs 95 :P

owned the oppo 95 six months. with the cambridge firstly I prefer the lower profile case which is just like their disc players and with its more conventional display, styling and proper player controls with its buttons etc. the oppo I hated the tiny compromised display could never read from the listening postion, the tiny odd ball non illuminated buttons I'd always be fumbling around to find. when installed the cambridge in my system my 3 year old daughter just walked upto it pressed the eject button and put a disc in. thats how intuitive the cambridge is to use.

the oppo could get quite warm, the cambridge runs very cool as a player and doesnt have a fan. the fan on the oppo 95 is very audible and a bit of a bugbear for me in a pretty quiet low noise floor room and system.

the cambridge is also not sluggish in use. you can just put a disc in it on start up. whereas the oppo was very sluggish on startup that would be off lookign at the network for media play etc would be there plugging the eject button with nothing happening. the media interface on the oppo I looked at once used and that was it, whereas the cambridge it is a much better interface for playing back music movies, photos etc.

In use in specs and capabilities and functionality the cambridge is exactly the same as the oppo so dont miss out at all there.

the cambridge in my opinion is a better built and put together unit. in australia the oppo you have to buy from a private importer with a "local" warranty but need to ship back to them who either fix it or have to ship back to oppo. the cambridge can get from local shops and get a 2 year warranty any problems just take back to the shop. with the oppo to play local region discs you have to buy it "modded" whcih adds another 10% to the price. whereas the cambridge is built and sold in our country for local use and hence out of box plays local discs and region free for dvd as is allowed in my country. saving me any cost of modding and associated issues with updates and warranty with modding.

the cambridge remote is a very smart thing as supplied with their audio players, but not illuminated the oppo one is pretty standard oppo but illuminated.

audio ? the cambridge over analog is actually very decent. as an oppo 95 owner I think most would be suprised to not actually give much up to it at all. the cambridge does not have balanced outputs, but then with the oppo 95 hooking up balanced to my fully balanced pre I'd have to be honest and say I am not sure hooking up that way provides any benefit as such over simple RCAs.


Edited by :) al, 08 February 2012 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

I am wishing to replace my CDP with this all whistles and bells unit. Purely for stereo use.

Surely if it is purely for stereo use you would get a dedicated CDP and not a blu-ray? It would be a waste of money having all the extra electrics that you wouldn't be using... Not sure if acoustically there is a huge difference, feature wise they are very similar. Go the dedicated CDP if you don't need video. You could get something like a Audiolab 8200 for that sort of money or a Cambridge 840C

what are peoples opinions of the modified oppo95 (Nuforce / Modwright or JLTi) over the standard units or their competition

Not sure Nuforce modify the 95 as the gain wasn't thought to be significant enough for the extra cost... This is a reasonably good review http://www.avguide.c...players-tpv-106

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:05 PM

Surely if it is purely for stereo use you would get a dedicated CDP and not a blu-ray? It would be a waste of money having all the extra electrics that you wouldn't be using... Not sure if acoustically there is a huge difference, feature wise they are very similar. Go the dedicated CDP if you don't need video. You could get something like a Audiolab 8200 for that sort of money or a Cambridge 840C
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good point, though cambridge do say the dac stage as good as their cd players .and the 751 does offer additional capability in 2ch for sacd/dvda and also ability to stream and play off media and network of just about anything digital format known to man !

but yeah if not far from a cambridge dealer could always borrow both the cd player and 751 bd compare on your own system to check for your self :P

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Not sure Nuforce modify the 95 as the gain wasn't thought to be significant enough for the extra cost... This is a reasonably good review http://www.avguide.c...players-tpv-106



yeah, I remember when the nuforce edition of the oppo83 came out. when I looked under the hood comaprisons of both it and the stock oppo I asked hte nuforce guy on avs to point to me what they had actually upgraded on their version. a lot of ducking and diving all I got. basically on component level all I could see was a nuforce screen print on the front panel ! lost some faith in the company since :)
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

If it were easier to purchase outside the US, I'd seriously consider a Modwright Oppo 95. With DAC inputs.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 09:13 AM

Thanks Randle,
I should have been a little clearer, i would replace all disc players in my arsenal and just have the Cambridge 751. But making sure it was a competent CDP too.
I love concerts etc on DVD.
@ :)al, cheers for making it clear, definately the 751 for me.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:58 AM

Hi Guys,

Just thought I would drop in and let you know I am now a member of the 751 club.
It will replace both a Marantz 63SE with MF X10D, and Toshiba DVD. All run into Quad 57's with 34/303. If interested I can post my thoughts. Should be able to pick it up Tuesday/Wednesday.
Just a nice thought that I have read elsewhere.... "Its sometimes easier to ask for forgiveness, rather than beg for permission"
I am about to go into the "Forgive me" mode ! LOL. Wish me luck!

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:23 AM

I am about to go into the "Forgive me" mode ! LOL. Wish me luck!

lol! I've found it actually works out better the other way if you can justify your decision well ;) I recently had my wife convincing me to spend more money!!!
Don't forget to tell how much you'll get when you sell your stuff ;) There is nothing like the comment "they're almost paying us to get it honey"

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

Cambridge documentation doesn't list the impedance for the analogue outputs on the 751BD, so I sent a query to Cambridge via their support pages.
It's 440 Ohms, so shouldn't have any problems with the vast majority of Preamps or Receivers.
Audio Sources: Technics SL-D303 T/T +Shure M97HE; Yamaha KX-500A HX Pro Cassette Deck; Nextwave DAB-390 DAB+/Internet Tuner.
AV Sources: Cambridge Audio 751BD Universal BluRay Player; TiVo 320.
Processing/Amps: Yamaha DSP-E800 DD/dts/Prologic Processor; Yamaha RX-596 Receiver.
Speakers: DIY 3-way 118L Front Mains; DIY 2-way surrounds; Jamo 2-way centre.