After playing around with digital audio de-embedding/capturing for sacd playback & backups, (click), I've come to the conclusion that this method is subject to the quality of the DSD2PCM conversion step in the players used for the process - and that in the 3 players I've tried, the converter chips were a compromise.
I'm now focussing my energy on extracting DFF files off the SACD discs. This will give me a straight file copy of the music files. I can then do what I like with them. Convert them to PCM using software then playback using my current solutions.
The biggest benefit is having backups of the music/discs, many of which are long OOP.
There is a solution under development to do this extraction, it's called sacd-ripper. Information can be found here.... click; sacd-ripper
To this point sacd-ripper has been a Linux app, which needed a Linux O/S installed onto a suitable PS3. But the project is now developing a native PS3 app, that will execute from within the GameOS PS3 operating system (as long as it has the LV1 patch).
This thread will document the process of achieving backups of my sacd's, by using sacd-ripper (native ps3 app version).
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Update @ 18-June: Sacd ripping using a PS3 is now working, using a pre-release version of sacd-ripper (taking iso images of the sacd layer is stable). The details on what is required are;
1) Obtain a sacd capable PS3. For the suitable PS3 model numbers click here- PS3 compatibility list
2) Make sure the PS3 is at firmware version 3.55 or less (versions >=3.56 cant be rolled back, and cant be used for sacd-ripper)
3) Apply the OtherOS custom firmware update, required for sacd-ripper. OtherOS is available from here- http://gitbrew.org/otheros/
- Notes; there have been some reports of OtherOS bricking some players, use at your own risk.
,,,instructions for applying OtherOS is documented here- Click
,,,note, the downloaded OtherOS firmware image will need to be renamed to PS3UPDAT.PUP in between steps 4/5 in the documented process above.
4) Obtain the PS3 sacd keys and load them into the root of a USB stick/drive, available here- PS3 keys
5) Obtain the latest SACD-RIPPER package and load it into the root of a USB stick/drive. Not currently available in pre-compiled form, information can be found here- http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/
6) Make sure you have a USB stick/drive that has enough capacity to store the rips (4gb minimum), needs to be formatted as FAT32.
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sacd-ripper download link:
Update @ 11-July: compiled sacd-ripper r252 pkg (stable beta release) can be downloaded here; Click-post #266
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scarletbook download link:
Update @ 9-July, compiled scarletbook release r252 available here; Click-post #245
Info: scarletbook.exe is a Windows application that can be used to extract individual tracks out of an ISO image that was taken by sacd-ripper. This utility is useful, if you want to minimise processing time on your PS3. The older PS3's are known to have overheating issues leading to the dreaded YLOD failure. In my case, I intend to minimise the usage of my PS3 by restricting it to taking ISO images only, and then using scarletbook on my pc to extract the tracks and convert them to PCM(wav) files.
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SACD ISO Decoding in Foobar:
Update @ 17-July, SACD ISO images created by sacd-ripper can now be played back in Foobar natively, with no file extractions or conversions required using a plugin called "Super Audio CD Decoder".
Download link here; Click-post #307
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Reference list of sacd players that can playback SACD-r's (ie: sacd iso images written to a dvd-r disc)
Play:
Cambridge Audio Azur 650BD
Denon DVD-2910
Denon DVD-3910
Marantz UD5005
NAD M5
NAD T585
OPPO BDP-80
OPPO BDP-83
OPPO BDP-83SE
OPPO BDP-93
OPPO BDP-95
Shanling SCD300
Sony BDP-S370
Sony BDP-S380
Sony BDP-S570
Sony BDP-S870
Sony BDP-S970
Yamaha BD-S1067
Do not play:
Accuphase DP-100
Ayre C-5xeMP
Denon DVD-1930
Denon DVD-1940
Denon DVD-2930
Integra DPS-6.9
Marantz DV-6001
Marantz SA-11S2
Marantz SA-15S1
Marantz SA-7001
Onkyo DV-SP504
Oppo DV-980H
Parasound D3
Philips DVP-9000S
Pioneer DV-565A
Pioneer DV-575A
Pioneer DV-600AV
Pioneer DV-610AV
Pioneer DV-656A
Pioneer DV-696AV
Pioneer DV-757Ai
Pioneer DV-989AVi
Pioneer DV-LX50
Sherwood Newcastle SD-871
Sony DVP-NS900V
Sony PlayStation3
Yamaha CD-S2000
Yamaha DVD-S1800
Yamaha DVD-S2700
Play after the firmware update:
Samsung HD745/945/950
Samsung HD841/941
Edited by ozmillsy, 18 July 2011 - 10:02 AM.
