I must correct you on one point, I DO care about the future planet my children will inherit.
I don't believe that you do. Your words betray you. Your children and their children will live on an increasingly hot planet and all the ettnedent problems that entails (if you think boat people are a problem today, wait 'till 100 million Bangladeshis take to their boats, because their lands are no longer productive due to seawater rise).
But I do not want MY kids (and other Australians), future work prospects jeopardised by what we are doing now and continue to do to our manufacturing and competitiveness with the rest of the world. Too many industries are shutting down (and our jobs are going overseas). I am for limiting our impact on glabal warming BUT not necessarily by the means with which we are using.
Ok, then think about these things:
* The carbon tax is claimed to reduce the competitiveness of the mining industry. That will cause our Dollar to fall (allegedly), thus making Australian industry and service more competitive.
* The mining tax is claimed to reduce the competitiveness of the mining industry. That will cause our Dollar to fall (allegedly), thus making Australian industry and service more competitive.
* If CO2 emissions are not addressed, temperatures on this planet will contrinue to rise, making life either extremely uncofortable, or impossible in many regions. IOW: Your children may have a planet that is barely survivable, let alone industrious.
A lot of us here are in business and we know first hand how taxes and other factors can affect our business. And we see SO many jobs being cut in our country.
I have been running my own business for more than 30 years. I've seen many ups and downs. The GST cost me 17% to my bottom line. The rise of the Aussie Dollar was worse. MUCH worse. It has cost me around 40% of what was left after the GST. The carbon tax is likely to cost me 5%. Compared to the other shocks, 5% is peanuts. If the Aussie Dollar moves down by (say) 10%, then my business is likely to benefit be more than the lost 5%. Roll on a falling Aussie Dollar. The carbon tax furore is a distraction foisted on moronis Australians by the Lieberal Party and their controllers (Rhinehart, Palmer, et al).
I have seen first hand how some of these environmental schemes have been manipulated and also seen overstated 'efficiency' of some schemes.
You cannot tell me that installing a solar hot water system in a house , and NOT setting it up correctly can still be classed as being environmentaly efficient?
You say that the sun heats up the water and that HAS to be more efficient than just using electricity. Well why are lots of peoples electricity bills just as high (after they install a solar hot water system? OK, electricity prices have increased. But if people leave their tank on off-peak, it will heat up every night. that means wasted power. And if people are still using a lot of electricity to heat up hot water PLUS the cost to the environment for the manufacture of the tank, the panels or tubes, the pipework, the cabling atc, then the cost to the environment is still there.
There is also problems with 'heat pumps', but I won't bother going into that one.
I am just highlighting the issues with some environmental schemes that we have today and these are areas which need consideration if we want to 'maximise' our efficiency.
Those issues are real and tiny by comparison. If an installer puts an innapproriate HWS in place and/or the consumer fails to do their homework, then there are methods to redress these things.
I am not here to debate the topic of 'is climate change real'? (I have never said it is not real),because that has turned out to be along the lines of Religion and evolution. I have got better things to do with my time than those debates that go round in circles for ever.
Of course. Climate change is real. No one denies that. Global warming is real. No one denies that. That global warming is caused by excessive CO2 is real. No one denies that. The best way to address the issue is under serious debate. Here in Australia, we will be implementing a 'carbon tax', followed by an ETS. Tony Abbott has proposed an alternate system, whereby YOU, ME and all the other taxpayers will give money to large polluters. Those polluters can promise to do stuff with the money (but actually do nothing). The government will then need to employ thousands of people to oversee the whole silly system.
Your choice. What do you want? A carbon tax that will probably work and cost you 5%. Or a stupid system that will probably not work and cost you XX%?
Edited by Zaphod Beeblebrox, 28 March 2012 - 11:49 AM.