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[yardley]

Yep like the ones at the cinema. Not the old red and blue ones. The later models coming in a couple of years you won't have to.

you seem to know alot about this new technology.

[svgts2]

Benji , i like yourself have been uming and arring with regard to the 54/58 & 65 inch Panasonic plasma my room size is 5.5mtr wide 10mtr in length 3.2mtr in height yep its a small extension, im very new to this technology hell its my first reply on this site, im a little confused with regard to the tv signal being 50hz analogue v digital will i get any graing as i hear people calling it from either analogue or digital i'm assuming digital is perfect i'm hoping you can shed an answer or even better give me some direction as what you have experienced by having yours ? i prefer to wall mount mine is yours wall or stand ? Cheers Mike.

Also do you know if in the future the current broadcast from the tv stations will improve for example this 50hz ? to 100hz ?

[Benje]

Mike

my 58" panel is wall mounted.

If you are using the panel's speakers (which I would not recommend) then I would not wall-mount. You will need all the help you can get to hear audibly the speakers on the TV. Much better if the audio is directed through your stereo/hi-fi/theatre gear.

Definitely digital. Analogue will appear very average on such a large panel, especially given some local reception issues

50 Hz vs 100 Hx. I have got no idea. seems like marketing mumbo/jumbo to me.

With your room size, you can probably fit whatever size you (and your budget) desire, unless your seating/viewing position is really close to the TV.

One of my frends has gone from a 58" panasonic to a 65" panasonic to a 63" Samsung 3d-tv. He has been happy with each incrementals tep, with the bonus that the last purchase (samsung 63") was significantly less expensive than the pana 65". Your choice where you go here.

Personally, I am very happy with the pana 58". Anything larger would be too big for the surrounding decor. I feed all audio through my home theater, so the average speakers on the big TV's are not used.

Happy choosing.

Benje

[joz]

Benji , i like yourself have been uming and arring with regard to the 54/58 & 65 inch Panasonic plasma my room size is 5.5mtr wide 10mtr in length 3.2mtr in height yep its a small extension, im very new to this technology hell its my first reply on this site, im a little confused with regard to the tv signal being 50hz analogue v digital will i get any graing as i hear people calling it from either analogue or digital i'm assuming digital is perfect i'm hoping you can shed an answer or even better give me some direction as what you have experienced by having yours ? i prefer to wall mount mine is yours wall or stand ? Cheers Mike.

Also do you know if in the future the current broadcast from the tv stations will improve for example this 50hz ? to 100hz ?

Don't fuss about the 50/100hz thing as it has little relavance with plasma.But LCDs on the other hand it does make a huge difference with 200hz being the panel of choice.
The 10A 58" and 65" should be had for significant discounts now with the approaching release of the 3D versions comming soonish.

[svgts2]

Mike

my 58" panel is wall mounted.

If you are using the panel's speakers (which I would not recommend) then I would not wall-mount. You will need all the help you can get to hear audibly the speakers on the TV. Much better if the audio is directed through your stereo/hi-fi/theatre gear.

Definitely digital. Analogue will appear very average on such a large panel, especially given some local reception issues

50 Hz vs 100 Hx. I have got no idea. seems like marketing mumbo/jumbo to me.

With your room size, you can probably fit whatever size you (and your budget) desire, unless your seating/viewing position is really close to the TV.

One of my frends has gone from a 58" panasonic to a 65" panasonic to a 63" Samsung 3d-tv. He has been happy with each incrementals tep, with the bonus that the last purchase (samsung 63") was significantly less expensive than the pana 65". Your choice where you go here.

Personally, I am very happy with the pana 58". Anything larger would be too big for the surrounding decor. I feed all audio through my home theater, so the average speakers on the big TV's are not used.

Happy choosing.

Benje

Thanks Benji & joz for your input,
I have purchased the new pana TH-P54V20A & the DMR-BW880, i have to wait as stock limited at this time anyway i have a Yamaha RX-V1500 being the age of the amp i have now noticed there isnt any HDMI points can you forsee any conection problems ? any member here using the (Adelaide loud speaker) Ascension speakers ? would like a review if possible. Before purchasing i had been asking around about a Pana Plasma a few people mentioned the Z1A model of which they are hard to find power hungry & expensive but a very good unit , as luck would have it after purchasing my V20A i found one at Lecornu again 54 inch but if anyone interested.

Cheers Mike

[joz]

Nice telly the 54v20 as is the 54z10 even if it does use a bit more juice it's not a deal breaker for most for the PQ.

[yardley]

what will be the price of the new 65inch pana be? the way prices are falling for plasma and lcd it might be around 4 grand which im hoping for. i suppose it also depends on the state of the aussie dollar

[yardley]

3999 bucks for a 65 pana these days,,,

[yardley]

i might buy one i think...gee prices have come down alot

[yardley]

had alook online and its even cheaper

[Upfront]

3999 bucks for a 65 pana these days,,,

The first one I sold was for about $17k!

[yardley]

The first one I sold was for about $17k!

do you still sell them mate? the way the pricing is on these they might be sub 3 grand by christmas time. are they chinese or japanese made?

[con219]

do you still sell them mate? the way the pricing is on these they might be sub 3 grand by christmas time. are they chinese or japanese made?

The 65 S series is made in Japan. As is all the V series.

[yardley]

thats good to know con

[Upfront]

Na I've been out of it for a while now. Not enough money in it any more.

[yardley]

unless your harvey norman

[Upfront]

Doesn't matter who you are. HN GG JB. They can honestly tell you that there is no money in tv's. If they are lucky they are making just enough to cover warehousing, warehouse staff wages, staff wages, admin wages, rent, power, insurance, super, blah blah blah. There is only money in bulk. And it's the customers that lose out. They get pushed into the model the store might make money out of and may not be right for them. Good staff leave because of lack of commission. So you get left with grumpy pushy dodgy sales people. I'd hate to say it but chasing a bargain will bite you in the arse eventually.

[Captain Crunch]

And now you can get a 65" Panny from Panasales for $2899! I wonder, how much lower can they go?

[jamesg11]

No 65" Pana there at the moment (just the TH-P58V10A)! - & I notice Panasonic Aust have deleted any non-3D V series 65"...?

[Captain Crunch]

No 65" Pana there at the moment (just the TH-P58V10A)! - & I notice Panasonic Aust have deleted any non-3D V series 65"...?

The 65" is on their website at $2899 currently. It says online purchase only so anyone who wants one - that's where you'll find it!

[joz]

Just be careful with Panasales and make sure the unit is new.
They do pickup all the refurbs, warranty returns and seconds.
But atm there is the TH-P65S20 around for a smidge over $3K,new model.

[Captain Crunch]

Just seen a 65" Panny at JBHIFI for$2999 - These things are getting cheaper. I wonder when they'll bring out a 75" model? 65" just isn't big enough!

[joz]

Next year,80" is the new 65"

[angle_sh00ter]

I find that any of the big chain stores will sell u any TV at cost price as long as you buy some extra warranty and a HDMI cable etc. I do it to keep them happy and then I always return the HDMI cable the next day

[yardley]

it was only afew years back when a 50inch plasma cost 10grand. things are getting cheaper day by day but what about the quality of the product

[JA]

Next year,80" is the new 65"

Hello Joz,

Any details/inside line ? It would be good as a solution instead of a projector for bright rooms.

Best
JA

Edited by JA, 17 November 2010 - 06:29 PM.

[Vitruvian]

Has anyone availed themselves to the JB deal? The price makes me very tempted to upgrade my 720p 50" Sony rear pro. I have heard that Panasonic panels suffer from 'floating blacks'. Anyone have any experience with this?

I think I will head to a JB tomorrow to check one out.

Any comments and/ or suggestions will be appreciated.

[jamesg11]

Which 65" pana is the jb one? Here's an avforums.com review of the VT20 (TX-P65VT20B) -
"Pros
The best black levels of any new TV on the market
Good out of the box performance in THX mode
Reference greyscale and colour reproduction when calibrated
Lack of PWM noise and clean looking images
Freeview HD and Freesat HD built-in
Reference level 3D performance
Excellent build quality
Excellent lag times for gamers
Full ISFccc calibration controls
THX Certified
Two Pairs of 3D glasses included with the display
WiFi dongle included with the display
Cons
The display appears to have a processing issue with 50Hz material that results in artefacts
Uncertainty over long term black level performance
Some visible banding with certain material
Menu design gets in the way when calibrating
Some users may see flicker from the image
3D glasses not that comfortable
Still lacks film cadence detection
CMS lacks full three way control for colour, hue and luminance as well as no control for secondary colours
Greyscale calibration only uses as a 2 point control as opposed to the 10 point controls available on some other displays
Lack of content on Viera Cast
Uses considerably more power than its LCD rivals
Extra 3D glasses are expensive
The price which is comparable to a good projector"

[Captain Crunch]

I ordered a 55" Sony Bravia EX500 last week, on special at Powerhouse for$1600. The sales guy was adamant that Panasonic, which they also sell, is not that great in terms of quality and reliability. Make of that what you will!

[unclemack]

50" V20 made in China... 54 v20 made in Japan.

Cheers

M

The 65 S series is made in Japan. As is all the V series.

[Vitruvian]

Which 65" pana is the jb one? Here's an avforums.com review of the VT20 (TX-P65VT20B) -
"Pros
The best black levels of any new TV on the market
Good out of the box performance in THX mode
Reference greyscale and colour reproduction when calibrated
Lack of PWM noise and clean looking images
Freeview HD and Freesat HD built-in
Reference level 3D performance
Excellent build quality
Excellent lag times for gamers
Full ISFccc calibration controls
THX Certified
Two Pairs of 3D glasses included with the display
WiFi dongle included with the display
Cons
The display appears to have a processing issue with 50Hz material that results in artefacts
Uncertainty over long term black level performance
Some visible banding with certain material
Menu design gets in the way when calibrating
Some users may see flicker from the image
3D glasses not that comfortable
Still lacks film cadence detection
CMS lacks full three way control for colour, hue and luminance as well as no control for secondary colours
Greyscale calibration only uses as a 2 point control as opposed to the 10 point controls available on some other displays
Lack of content on Viera Cast
Uses considerably more power than its LCD rivals
Extra 3D glasses are expensive
The price which is comparable to a good projector"

Thank you for the information.

I went and checked it out for myself. Compared to the latest high end models this is a mid-level screen. There was much more detail in the high level panels (around the $5 - 5.5k mark), in fact sufficient detail to warrant the extra cash.

I spoke to the manager and was able to ask some questions. According to him the model cycles run such that the lower end screens begin to be replaced in April, until August, at which time the higher end panels are replaced.

If this information is accurate, then it appear that the time to try to get the best deals is prior to or just after the model cycle ends.

Something to consider.

Edited by Vitruvian, 22 November 2010 - 05:50 PM.

[joz]

Hello Joz,

Any details/inside line ? It would be good as a solution instead of a projector for bright rooms.

Best
JA

Hell yes.... give us the good oil joz. 80" is more like it.

Nothing official yet, just a murmur.

[yardley]

the way the pricing are going with these they might be 2 grand in the new year. its amazing how plasmas have dropped in price in the last year or so

[Stump]

I think Australia is now one of the cheapest countries for plasmas .The new 3D model in Japan (Osaka) is Panasonic TH P65VT2 with a recommended price of $7639 and sale price of $5618.Each time Im on the verge of buying the Panasonic 65 inch the sales person shows my something that just come out better ,then I go home and stick with my Sony wide screen CRT until the plasma matches the CRT quality or the Sony packs up......

[Benje]

Stump

I saw Cris's Panasonic 65" VT20 doing 2D blu-ray on the weekend. It was impressive. However, I am sticking with my 58" V10 (I value being happily married).

Good definition, and good transition from black to shading to full sun. Watching 'Sound of Music'.

Happy trying....

benje

[joz]

Yumm the 65vt is a stunner,prolly best on ground honours atm.
Still exxy though.

[yardley]

went to jb-hi looking to buy a 65er. they had no stock left and the salesman tried to sell me a 60inch LG instead for `1500 bucks. it not in the same league as the pana.

[yardley]

whats the best price people have got for this plasma?

[con219]

I saw it at HN Marion (SA) ie 65vt20 for $3999 brandnew not the display.

HN =Harvey Norman

[yardley]

con that must have been the 3d model you saw. did they have the non 3d model there and if so what was the price?

[con219]

con that must have been the 3d model you saw. did they have the non 3d model there and if so what was the price?

Too long ago to remember Sorry

[yardley]

bought a 65inch from panasales from melbourne...just waiting for it now

[yardley]

the 3d model was better but not by much

[holdencaulfield2007]

bought a 65inch from panasales from melbourne...just waiting for it now

Bloody Nora, are they sending it from Melbourne? If so you must have got it for a good price. Are you hoping to see the Pies go back to back on it?